Cast SideWinder is SOOOO close :)
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostsohfast »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I give you props for trying to dbe innovative, however I think it's kinda a bad design.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't have a problem with opinions...but alot of people on here have nothing but opinions. atleast state why you think its a bad design, etc
I don't have a problem with opinions...but alot of people on here have nothing but opinions. atleast state why you think its a bad design, etc
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Street_Kings »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
LoL...mad blingin huh? i would rather rock a Hot pink with yellow and purple polka dots and lime green striped sidewinder than a BLinGiN SSaUToCHroMe
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i rock a bling SSautochrome manifold
LoL...mad blingin huh? i would rather rock a Hot pink with yellow and purple polka dots and lime green striped sidewinder than a BLinGiN SSaUToCHroMe
</TD></TR></TABLE>i rock a bling SSautochrome manifold
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mpir3 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I don't have a problem with opinions...but alot of people on here have nothing but opinions. atleast state why you think its a bad design, etc
</TD></TR></TABLE> For one, in MY OPINION it doesn't look good.The collector bottlenecks into too small an area, I definately don't believe it will flow as good as other mani's, particularly other quality ac compatible mani's set up for a 3 inch downpipe.There is no way that thing will spool a given turbo in the same amount of time as a one peice shorter design.It's just too raical of a design for nothing, you CAN fit a 3 inch downpipe without putting the turbo all the way the hell over there, other manufacturers have done it already. Not to mention there are just too many flanged connections, the less the better when it comes to mani's.Tinker, I like the cast idea, but perhaps you could do a nice one peice design that keeps the turbo in a more conventional location, it can be done, I know it for a fact.
I don't have a problem with opinions...but alot of people on here have nothing but opinions. atleast state why you think its a bad design, etc
</TD></TR></TABLE> For one, in MY OPINION it doesn't look good.The collector bottlenecks into too small an area, I definately don't believe it will flow as good as other mani's, particularly other quality ac compatible mani's set up for a 3 inch downpipe.There is no way that thing will spool a given turbo in the same amount of time as a one peice shorter design.It's just too raical of a design for nothing, you CAN fit a 3 inch downpipe without putting the turbo all the way the hell over there, other manufacturers have done it already. Not to mention there are just too many flanged connections, the less the better when it comes to mani's.Tinker, I like the cast idea, but perhaps you could do a nice one peice design that keeps the turbo in a more conventional location, it can be done, I know it for a fact.
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it can be done, but not easily, or without grinding the block, or ordering a specific turbo. this was designed in this manner to be as trouble free as possible, and run ANY SIZED turbo you want. Flow and dyno numbers will be up w/in one week....
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also, it wasnt really designed to be sold as JUST A MANIFOLD. There is a kit in the works, and the kit will fit in ALOT of cars more easily than running a mile of piping throughout the car(WAIC will be used).
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Really? Do you think that is the best approach for a street car?To each his own but I'm just not feeling this one.
Really? Do you think that is the best approach for a street car?To each his own but I'm just not feeling this one.
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I think so. I reread what I wrote above, I want to stress that Im NOT upset or anything, just stating what Im thinking 
the kit will be pretty much self-contained, very easy to install. no worries for a street setup.

the kit will be pretty much self-contained, very easy to install. no worries for a street setup.
seen the mani. today when cody and i went to go get "the wagon" (you will see). manifold looks very clean and might be demo on my 4th gen hatch with stock b20z 5psi till it cracks then it will get darton sleeves.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tinker219 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well, its pretty much IN production. We want to get at least a couple tests to make sure the thing actually works(I cant see how it wouldnt)
Then, itll be good to go!
Look for a kit in the very near future for ALL B series engines(in ANY car
)</TD></TR></TABLE>NO d-series love?
Then, itll be good to go!Look for a kit in the very near future for ALL B series engines(in ANY car
)</TD></TR></TABLE>NO d-series love?
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There are production plans for everything from Neons to 240sx's
You D/H/F/K series guys will get your chance as soon as we get things rolling! And yes, there will be an AC manifold, along with a Hardcore manifold, for each engine(unless AC is easily achieved w/the hardcore manifold). Reguardless, each manifold will flow very identically, but the turbo placement will be the key difference.
FMIC piping wont be that much more difficult if youd rather go w/that route. Its basically the same as a drag IC setup, but with 13" longer of a turbo-IC section.
Yes JUST the manifold is f/s.
You D/H/F/K series guys will get your chance as soon as we get things rolling! And yes, there will be an AC manifold, along with a Hardcore manifold, for each engine(unless AC is easily achieved w/the hardcore manifold). Reguardless, each manifold will flow very identically, but the turbo placement will be the key difference.FMIC piping wont be that much more difficult if youd rather go w/that route. Its basically the same as a drag IC setup, but with 13" longer of a turbo-IC section.
Yes JUST the manifold is f/s.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DIY_Racing »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Tinker, where you at on this???
havent seen an update lately.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Probably out welding his *** of to catch up on orders.
havent seen an update lately.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Probably out welding his *** of to catch up on orders.
I think it's in production now.
http://www.lovefab.com/manifolds/sidewinder.html
A lot differant, and it's not anywhere near the sub $500 area, same price as the SST.
http://www.lovefab.com/manifolds/sidewinder.html
A lot differant, and it's not anywhere near the sub $500 area, same price as the SST.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchback19 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think it's in production now.
http://www.lovefab.com/manifolds/sidewinder.html
A lot differant, and it's not anywhere near the sub $500 area, same price as the SST.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that's the standard welded sidewinder...... not the cast one listed here.
http://www.lovefab.com/manifolds/sidewinder.html
A lot differant, and it's not anywhere near the sub $500 area, same price as the SST.</TD></TR></TABLE>
that's the standard welded sidewinder...... not the cast one listed here.
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Probably out welding his *** of to catch up on orders.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Aint that the truth! Im slow as molasis now too, because its ******* COLD up here!
We have our final electrical inspection in the new shop, then drywall the cieling, blow insulation in the attic, install the bay doors, and HELLO NEW SHOP! w00.
On the Cast SideWinders, my partner is freaking out about liability insurance. We have let a few out so far( VERY few), only because the buyers agreed to sign waivers. As soon as we get this figured out, they will be ready to sell to the masses.
Plus, we are shopping around at different foundrys across the country so that we can bring the lowest prices possible to everyone.
Heres what the finished products will look like!
Modified by Tinker219 at 3:44 PM 12/24/2003
Probably out welding his *** of to catch up on orders.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Aint that the truth! Im slow as molasis now too, because its ******* COLD up here!
We have our final electrical inspection in the new shop, then drywall the cieling, blow insulation in the attic, install the bay doors, and HELLO NEW SHOP! w00.
On the Cast SideWinders, my partner is freaking out about liability insurance. We have let a few out so far( VERY few), only because the buyers agreed to sign waivers. As soon as we get this figured out, they will be ready to sell to the masses.
Plus, we are shopping around at different foundrys across the country so that we can bring the lowest prices possible to everyone.
Heres what the finished products will look like!
Modified by Tinker219 at 3:44 PM 12/24/2003
Thats pretty fricken nice but I wanna be a baller so I will buy welded.
I got another project car now that I also plan on boosting.
As I said before I will get in touch with ya later in the year on the Dirty D manifolds.
I got another project car now that I also plan on boosting.
As I said before I will get in touch with ya later in the year on the Dirty D manifolds.
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Well, with the old foundry, $599. We are shopping around for better prices from other foundries, and so far it looks like we may be able to lower that a little bit.


