Schister66

Currently i am looking for a new set of cams for my stock motor turbo GSR. I'm going to be in the 325whp range once my exhaust is done and i get tuned. I'm looking for a very streetable cam...much like the ITRs.

Does anyone have any dyno graphs of any of these cams or experience with them? I'm leaning towards one already based on the expert advice of a close friend, but i want to know who else has used these cams.

Schister66

STOCK GSR : b17a and b18c1 (Chilled Cast Core)

INTAKE lift - 10.6 mm,duration - 230 @1mm
EXHAUST lift - 9.4mm, duration - 227@1mm


1. ITR/CTR (Chilled Cast Cores)

- STOCK 1997-1999 ITR ($500-580/price, ITR intake cam $250-290)

INTAKE lift - 11.5 mm, duration 240 @1mm
EXHAUST lift - 10.5mm, duration 235 @1mm


- STOCK CTR and 2000-2001 ITR (CTR intake cam $300-350)

INTAKE lift - 11.5 mm, duration 243 @1mm
EXHAUST lift - 10.5mm, duration 235 @1mm

AFTERMARKET CAMS (LISTED IN ALPHABETICAL ORDER)


2. Blox (no @1mm specs available)

( MSRP $750 US/price for Tuner Series not Competition Series, Chill Cast Cores )

http://www.bloxracing.com

- Type A , Tuner Series($450-535 US / price)

INTAKE lift - 11.7 mm, duration 247 @ 0.05 in.
EXHAUST lift - 10.7mm, duration 239 @0.05 in.

- Type B, Tuner Series ($450-540 US /price)

INTAKE lift - 12.4 mm, duration 266 @0.05 in.
EXHAUST lift - 12.0 mm, duration 266 @0.05 in.

- Type C, Competition Series ( $ 450 - 550 US/price)

INT 60 (240) 6.5 76 (304) 12.0 63 (252) 9.0 0.17
EXH 63 (252) 8.7 76 (304) 11.5 60 (240) 6.2 0.19

Primary, Vtec, and secondary lobes measured at .050�

- Type HSL, Competition Series ($510-570 US /price)

INTAKE lift - 12.6 mm, duration 255 @0.05 in.
EXHAUST lift - 12.5 mm, duration 256 @0.05 in.


no available specs for Tuner Series Type HSL or Turbo, Competition Series Type B , 10124 Race, or Turbo yet.


3. Buddy Club

- Spec 3 Plus ($549 US / price)

INTAKE lift - 11.2 mm, duration 250 @1mm
EXHAUST lift - 11.5mm, duration 245 @1mm

- Spec 4 ($600 US /price)

INTAKE lift - 12.3 mm, duration 269 @1mm
EXHAUST lift - 11.8 mm, duration 274 @1mm


4. Cat from Europe ($485 US / price)

These 2501606 billet VTEC road racing cams come from the Euporean import scene and Cat are cam makers for some of the Honda British Touring Car Championship teams. They require a VTEC/fuel controller like the Apex VAFC for tuning the idle and have an aggressive ramp and more aggressive nonVTEC lobes, despite the relatively mild specs on the VTEC lobe. Thanks goes to Steve at Johnston Research & Performance for the info.

http://www.jrponline.com/

INTAKE lift - 11.1 mm, duration 242 @1mm
EXHAUST lift - 10.32mm, duration 240 @1mm

5. Crane Standard Tappet & Race Only Roller Follower Cams

The specs listed on the Crane Cams website are at 0.05 in. valve lift. Thanks to Dave Maxwell at Crane for forwarding the duration @1mm valve lift specs for the Stage 1 cams.

http://www.cranecams.com/import/avteccams.htm

- Stage 1 (part no. 2530010 - $773.33/price)

INTAKE lift- 11.6 mm, duration 243 @ 1mm
EXHAUST lift - 10.8mm, duration 237 @ 1mm

- Stage 2 (part no. 2530012)

INTAKE lift- 11.99 mm, duration 248 @ 0.05 in.
EXHAUST lift - 11.6 mm, duration 242 @0.05 in.

- Stage 3 (part no. 2530016)

INTAKE lift- 12.39 mm, duration 254 @ 0.05 in.
EXHAUST lift - 11.99 mm, duration 248 @ 0.05 in.

tepid1

I run CTR's. So far they are by far the best bang for the buck cam out there if you ask me. Plus they have the reliability of OEM hardware.

The rest of my head is complimented with Manley hardware and valves.

boostedcivicsir

if my head ever gets done i will be putting my maz cams back in.

Schister66

Mazworx cams are probably a little bit overkill for me, not to mention the price...

1158

I swapped out my GSRs for CTRs and picked up 9 whp. But I like them better. On the graph I gained more area under the curve and decreased spool time by about 500 rpm. This is on an otherwise internally stock GSR with SC34 creeping between 8 and 9 psi. I think the difference between the CTRs and GSRs would become more pronounced as boost increases.

vtec.dc2

i prefer stock in my case itr..no cam gears stock everytning as far as head goes.. 315whp and 9k revs ftw 100k miles on the head.

Boostedb20EH2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1158 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I swapped out my GSRs for CTRs and picked up 9 whp. But I like them better. On the graph I gained more area under the curve and decreased spool time by about 500 rpm. This is on an otherwise internally stock GSR with SC34 creeping between 8 and 9 psi. I think the difference between the CTRs and GSRs would become more pronounced as boost increases.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Like what better? You lost me.

Schister66

well i am hoping to find either 00-01 ITR or CTR cams and just swap them with stock cam gears...i know i'll see a gain, but it may not be as pronounced as it would be if i got the gears and dialed them in a little better....

still looking for a set though.....

Schister66

what do you guys think about Blox Type B's with stock cam gears??

alpha

We have used Skunk2 Turbo's, Si's, CTR's, ITR's, GSR's and Crower 62404's on a non-vtec setup. The Skunk2 Turbo's were horrible. The Si's are what they are. The CTR and ITR's made the most power. And the GSR's were great if you didnt have access and/or money to CTR/ITR cams. On our EG I am going to try out a set of Mazworx V1 cams. Maybe do a comparison between them and the CTR's that are in the Integra

1158

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostedb20EH2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Like what better? You lost me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry, didn't make that very clear. I like the CTRs better. I think I need to flow more air to notice large power gains sometimes seen from swapping in CTR cams for GSR cams. With the CTR cams the car feels quicker, revs quicker, and builds boost quicker.

Schister66

aren't the 00-01 ITR and CTR cams the same thing??

Also, aren't the changes between the 97-99 and the 00-01 cams marginally different for turbo setups??

bzyq2001

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alpha &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">We have used Skunk2 Turbo's, Si's, CTR's, ITR's, GSR's and Crower 62404's on a non-vtec setup. The Skunk2 Turbo's were horrible. The Si's are what they are. The CTR and ITR's made the most power. And the GSR's were great if you didnt have access and/or money to CTR/ITR cams. On our EG I am going to try out a set of Mazworx V1 cams. Maybe do a comparison between them and the CTR's that are in the Integra</TD></TR></TABLE>

skunk2 turbo cams was stage1 or stage2 ??

almostboostedgsr

ive heard people using one itr intake cam and one gsr exhaust cam. Or is it the other way around.