The dowel spacing is narrower, like on the crx hf. On the fluidyne that ballooned, it was the core, not the endtanks, right? Now that you say that though, I think i have seen more ballooned fluidynes than any other rad.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Full-Race Geoff &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i put one in a crx it fit like crap, and one in a civic that fit ok, but the dowels were off by about 1/4"

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everything on a crx fits like crap.

 

i put a c&r on my crx and it fit perfect

 

yeah its always the fluidyne cores, the endtanks really shouldnt balloon. that would be really really bad

have you ever actually seen a PWR balloon?

 

I have both the PWR and the C&R. The C&R goes to my car and the PWR goes to my friend's car that going to be boosted soon. It has a fal slim fan on it when I bought it.

 

just got my pwr radiator and intercooler from earl look awsome , made me hard to say the least we will see how both hold up this season..

 

Very informing thread

 

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i agree. i'd like to hear some more opinions/comparisons by people who have used/seen both.

 

I also get a PWR rad for my 1992-95 Civic and he seems to be really good, fits perfect.... The price is good too ... I was to cheap to get a Fluidyne for 360 $ ....

 

how come the KOYO aluminum radiators are no good? they seem thicker than the fluidyne .. i have a koyo..

 

i dont like koyos based purely on fitment. they are just too big, and there is no benefit to being that big

they make a great nissan rad tho!

 

I have a c&r , i wanted the best so i bought the best

 

i just talked to More Power Racing and they speciifically said that PWR does NOT make radiators for DOHC engines, that all the ones they make are for SOHC b/c the inlet and outlet on all their radiators are the smaller single-cam size. Their website says: "PWR-0918, 1992-00 Honda Civic SOHC Only, will NOT fit 99-00 Civic Si 2 row radiator" Can anyone comment on this. I have emailed PWR and will post what they say.

EDIT: I also called C&R and they are getting back to me on the wall thickness.


Modified by sol2nr at 1:11 PM 2/2/2004

 

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i can vouch for that , i have the PWR and it looks like Crap IMO . the quailty of the product could have been better, but i got it for a steal so i took it

 

ok, C&R called me back and here's what i found out:
I was talking w/ Kevin, who has a boosted Honda and deals w/ their import tech stuff...

The C&R endtanks are 0.065" thick. ALL their inlets and outlets are for B-series engines, even if you have a single cam. There are two core sizes: 36mm for turbo applications, and 26mm for all-motor applications.

He has been running his 26mm core (b/c 36 wasn't out back then) radiator for 3 years now at 30 coolant PSI w/ no problems. He's boosted to ~340whp daily. He said u shouldn't have a problem running a 30psi rad cap at all. The higher PSI gives the coolant a better chance of getting to the backside of the combustion chamber.

he also added that down the road, if you're pushing like 600+whp, you might want to get a bigger radiator, a lower temp fan switch (stock turns on at about 200degrees), and possibly a lower thermastat.


so i would have sealed my decision and bought the C&R, but its only 0.065 thick, like the Fluidine, while the PWR is .125". I'm definitely going to get the C&R over the PWR if what More Power Racing said is right, about PWR only making inlet and outlets for SOHC.... we'll see what PWR says.

the plot thickens, lol

 

ive been running a "slightly modded" PWR on my se-r for a while now......actually, ran it almost all summer with out a fan and never had any over heating problems.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sol2nr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i just talked to More Power Racing and they speciifically said that PWR does NOT make radiators for DOHC engines, that all the ones they make are for SOHC b/c the inlet and outlet on all their radiators are the smaller single-cam size. Their website says: "PWR-0918, 1992-00 Honda Civic SOHC Only, will NOT fit 99-00 Civic Si 2 row radiator"
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That is a TOTAL LIE by More Power Racing. Tell them I said that. The Civic half sized radiator comes standard with the B sized in/outlets. I really hate vendors that will lie to make a sale. All the other mounting tabs are the same as stock which makes them an easy drop in installation. 99% of my radiator sales are for people doing the B swap with a turbo.

Buy any radiator you think is best for you. That is what capitalism is all about. BUT PLEASE DON'T BUY ANYTHING FROM PEOPLE WHO LIE.

 

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That is a TOTAL LIE by More Power Racing. Tell them I said that. The Civic half sized radiator comes standard with the B sized in/outlets. I really hate vendors that will lie to make a sale. All the other mounting tabs are the same as stock which makes them an easy drop in installation. 99% of my radiator sales are for people doing the B swap with a turbo.

Buy any radiator you think is best for you. That is what capitalism is all about. BUT PLEASE DON'T BUY ANYTHING FROM PEOPLE WHO LIE.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i hear ya. I had no intentions of believing it. It just doesn't make any sense that PWR, a very reputable company, would limit their products to an engine that most people throw out. They weren't lieing for a sale though. He truely believed it. Him telling me that caused me to not buy it from them.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sol2nr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Him telling me that caused me to not buy it from them.
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That is all I care about. There is just way to much BS going on in this area.

 

My PWR dropped in PERFECT and is more snug than the stock peice.

 

I gotta fluidyne... have had it for 3 years...no problem, boosting hard all the time, in some hot freakin weather.

 

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what chassis and engine?

 

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what chassis and engine?</TD></TR></TABLE>

2000Si with B18A

 

So it seems to me the PWR and C&R are the best choices out of all of the radiators out there. Anyone with a DA with either one of them in their car?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpoolnG2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">So it seems to me the PWR and C&R are the best choices out of all of the radiators out there. Anyone with a DA with either one of them in their car? </TD></TR></TABLE>


why dont you read g2turbo's post half way down the first page . . .