zcegdx

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Troll on

zcegdx

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Or even wall thickness of other brands

grumblemarc

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Wondering why you haven't mentioned that you've tried to contact BWR or not.

zcegdx

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Ive asked here and fb. Didnt think it made that much of a diference. Its a fairly straightforward question. Im not asking people for their opinions of bwr.

i also asked about wall thickness of other brands, if most are 2.1mm or?

but it seems the trolls without brains just want to run their mouths.

SilverEK96

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I'll gladly sell you my BWR ramhorn and you can find out for yourself

KevinEF7

There junk

grumblemarc

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Who's the troll? You don't even know what you should really be asking. The real question you should be asking is what it's made from (ex. Sch 10 vs. Sch 40). Check the welding/Fabrication forums and educate yourself.

Also, if the manufacturer doesn't want to divulge this information then look elsewhere.

turbohatch96y7

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Careful i got an infraction for saying this

NotARaCist

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Either I dreamt of responding to this pitifully lazy thread, or someone is ninja-deleting posts. That's pretty classy. OP, you've already found their vendor thread. Why don't you ask them directly? OR PM them? Or call them? They obviously don't have a presence here, so you shouldn't be expecting them to answer, and one of us telling you that would involve someone here having bought one (stupid waste of money) and then cut it in half (even more stupid waste of money). Also, the more important question you should be asking is how thick are their WELDS? Since that's where they break.

turbohatch96y7

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Oh you didn't get a pm either? Thats crazy

Neither did i

wantboost

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Holy **** so many deleted posts in here lol.

So OP, have you tried contacting bwr directly? You know like pick up the phone orsendthem an e-mail?

If not stop posting here and do it

zcegdx

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Troll on

KevinEF7

Is BWR a sponsor here or something?

My first post was deleted aswell

Censorship.....

NeedMyOldSN

Perhaps this thread is an example why I could find very little info here on their manifolds.

AZ_CIVIC

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I've talked with a few guys about the BWR manifolds and was told they are actually pretty good. As a matter of fact the BWR manifolds are done by mostly individuals who worked for Full Race for many years.

Originally they were being fabricated by a guy named Charlie who worked for AFI and has now been fabricating for Sheepy for the past few years.

Turbo-LS

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Bwr ramhorn. Hit the hood fit like **** they did nothing about it for my friend after multiple phone calls and emails. Spend a few extra bucks and buy a Tempest, Sheepy, Full-Race

NeedMyOldSN

That's enough for me to pass. Thanks.

SilverEK96

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My BWR ramhorn was acutally ok, but the downpipe and dump tube were P.O.S.
The down pipe has a horrible 90 degree angle and hangs very low. The dump tube basically sits on top of the downpipe no matter what way you angle the wastegate. Emailed them as well, never got a response back either. Also they dont teardrop there wastegate inlets like most legit companies do. Do NOT buy from them, youll end up spending more money fixing crap from them.

Turbo-LS

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Yeah i wasnt going to get into that much. None of the charge pipes fit the car at all that were specifically made for him to run in his DA integra. They wouldnt have even fit my DC chassis. Dumptube was fine downpipe was way off but fixable

NotARaCist

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It's so quaint that OP thinks we're trolling him. This isn't trolling, this is us telling you that you're being stupid. We might be jerks around here, but we're honest jerks.

wantboost

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I can't remember who BWR got their jigs from or if they made them... I know what companies got the jigs from AFI when they shut their doors and if it wereme I'd buy from one of those people .

Or spoolin, lovefab, rc autoworks, go autoworks, full race, doc race, jgs (if looking for a budget log manifold), and so on.

I'm not sure if Alex at Neukin (i think his name is Alex right lol? I should know this) isgoing torebuild aftera fire destroyed his shop last year (and no insurance on building our contents ouch, especially since he hadjust started developing and building hybrid power systems for bikes and such) but I have one I'dhislatest b series ax street mini-rams that's t25/38mm flanged (not ac friendly but only pussies use it lol) and it's a super solid, quality piece. Fitment is perfect, welds are great with almost (89-90% or more depending on joint location) full penetration (rare in the typical Honda based weld el turbo manifold market)

There's a reason quality parts cost what they do, the time taken to develop and fabricate a quality part. The typical welder for a quality manifold company has spent years honing their craft and that time and abilityisn't cheap by the hour, neither are the tools, consumables, materials and the building... That's why name brand costs what it does. It's not like the fashion/clothing industry where you can pay thousands of people in China 25 cents a day to make cheap shoes.

However it's very easy for a new company to buy a proven, quality productfrom a week established company and have it shipped off to be reverse engineered and duplicated then produced en masse. All you have to do is buy a turbo manifold from a quality company and have someone use it to build a jig to copy it. A competent welder could build a jig off of a completed manifold in a matter of hours. Then all they have to do is replicate the jigs how ever many times over.

So for the cost of a manifold, some materials, and the cost of a welder anyone can copy another product. Doesn't mean that just because it's cheaper than the name brand part you should buy it.

Honestly (and this might get me yelled at) but companies like this aren't really supporting our scene. They are simply copying/licensing parts from other companies and selling them for profit. They aren'tinnovating or changing the car world the way companies like Full-Race, Skunk2, and others like them are doing... There's always constant innovation and product updates from the top tier companies along with excellent customer service. These copycat companies are here to make money. Nothing more, nothing less.

I mean you can't even get BWR to answer your questions. Doesn't that tell you everything you need to know about the company? If they aren't willing to answer your questions before they take your money thenwhat do you think is going to happen when you have a problem after they haveyour money?

THINK ABOUT IT

and yes I'm probably gonna get in trouble for what I just said but it had to be said eventually.

NotARaCist

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Wantboost, it had already been said a couple times, and had gotten ninja-deleted by one of your buddies.

wantboost

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OP I managed to find a real live person for you to talk to at BWR.You have a PM.