sushibug

Sleeved, eagle rods, je pistons... is that enough to make a motor handle 20psi? or does the head have to be built to? i'm trying to figure out if i should stay sohc turbo or ls turbo. right now i make about $1,000 spendable a month and i want to know if a 13second car is in my grasps.

BROOD

Just off the top of my head...you will want to add Stainless Valves and a Hondata to your list

newsense

I am in the process of building a "bullet proof" ls... It has been quite costly for me but I also did a bit more than just resleeving and pistons and rods... I think it will be worth it... If you are only trying to run 13's than a LS motor and a turbo will suite you just fine.

sushibug

im just so excited! i make 5x more money then before. somehow i managed to scrape by enough to get a greddy turbo + intercooler for my car... now i wanna chuck it and buy a badass setup. prolly going to buy a pre-made one from http://www.importbuilders.com

int3gra

get some internals while your at it

2K_TEG

This is what I want...should be pretty "bullet-proof"

B18B HEAD

• Portflow Port & Polish
• Portflow Deshroud Chambers to fit 84.5MM bore
• Stainless Steel Valves (Swirl Polished Black Nitride Coated)
• Portflow Titanium Retainers
• Portflow Valve Springs
• Stock Cams

B18B BLOCK

• Golden Eagle Sleeves (bored and honed to 84.5mm)
• Eagle Connecting Rods
• Endyn 9.0:1 Compression Rollerwave pistons (84.5mm)
• Crank Micro-polished & Balanced
• Cometic 85MM Headgasket
• Pro Drive Oil Pump Gear
• Moroso Oil Pan
• Moroso Oil Pickup

MISCELLANEOUS

• New oil pump
• New water pump
• All new belts and hoses and bearings
• ARP hardware

88CRXHybrid

meziere electric water pump instead of stock pump.

CivicHB_92

so how much would that be?

int3gra

u must be dancing more than 44 hours a week to fund that type of setup

B20LS-T

DAMN, 2K TEG: That is the exact same setup as I am going with plus a Z10 Block Girdle. I want to build my head too, but not sure whats good. How do you like the Portflow components? whats your redline gonna be? what size turbo you puttin on that bad boy? last question, when you gonna get it all put together? im interested to know how it is considering im going with the exact same bottom end (even Endyne pistons) and wanna know what you think your gonna run. Thanks!

Lei Siew Long

since you're in San Diego, i would recommend contacting AEBS. they could fabricate you a nice turbo system and bulletproof your bottom end with their own blocks, and of course other bottom end upgrades: pistons, rods, etc. and they now fabricate their own billet cranks.

but, on the downside, you will be lighter in the wallet for at least several months.

there is a prelude there with a custom turbo system. all the piping are 3.00" stainless steel: i/c piping, downpipe and stainless turbo manifold. custom intake manifold as well.

858-693-3200

2K_TEG

conservatively...$5-6K I will not be finishing this setup anytime soon.


[Modified by 2K_TEG, 12:39 PM 4/11/2002]

2K_TEG

I am going to get the z10 girdle too, I just haven't added it to my list yet. I have never personally seen a portflow head or portflow components, but they have a great reputation and are highly recommended. I am not shooting for 10K rpms or anything, but I think with all this it would be safe to raise it to 8K. I have heard of LSes with 9K redlines, but that is way too risky for me.

I am going to start out with the standard t3.t4oe and see how that works, I may step up to a 60-1, but I doubt it, I am looking for a quick spooling turbo. About completion date...uh...I am not really sure, I would love to get it done tomorrow, but as you know this is expensive! I am just going to keep buying parts when they are on special and oneday, hopefully soon, I will have it all built up. Anyone wanna do a GE GB? You have to have already done one to get the discounted prices again. The headwork is going to have to be all at once, about $1500. Other than that I can get these things as I go and hopefully then not notice the $6K price tag.

I am hoping for upper 300 whp. Then once I get that, I will have to find a way to get all that power to the ground. I am not too good at predicting drag times, cause I am not too good at drag racing, yet, but I think low 12s for sure, high 11s maybe. Good luck, let me know how yours goes.

sushibug

i actually went to AEBS. its not what i expected out of a racer shop, seems like its not open to the public or something. they probably do a good job but they seem a little pricey. $1200+ for a tuned and installed hondata stage2b.

DIRep972

iTrader: (1)

2kteg- 350+whp and youll be trapping near 120mph.. thats F'n fast..

2K_TEG

Sounds good to me

newsense

Ive purchased sll of these things listed but chose Endyn to do the headwork as well. Unfortunately they dont do LS heads but they made and exception for me. I plan on making well over 400whp with my setup, well thats the goal anyway... I used Crower valvetrain and cams (No flames please, Ive read the horror stories already)So far I've spent 4000 on just the motor and such.... Im assembling it sometime next week and shooting to have it running my late May.

Lei Siew Long

it's not a retail shop that a consumer would normally be used to. you just have to enter from the back instead of the front.

$1200? is that the price of the unit with tuning and install?

sushibug

yeah... that is for an obdi computer too. i forget if that price included injectors or not but i dont think so. he said four hours mandatory tuning at a rate of $150 a hour i think. also the price changed happened the day before and he wasnt aware of that.

AlphaKennyWun

IMHO you throw a vtec head, gsr oil pump, new pistons & rods, hondata and injectors and youre in the 12s baby! The vtec head is not necessary but hey an extra 50 flywheel hp sho is nice!

DIRep972

iTrader: (1)

I think u can hit 12's without any of that stuff... Stock block LS turbo on 10psi will do 12's.. just as newsense, he did it on 9

sushibug

the people i know around here are all into jdm this, spoon that, all-motor this. they admit that i will be faster then them with my setup, and my setup will costs half that of theirs... but they believe in the prestige... fine by me, i'll take a fatter wallet and a faster car.

AlphaKennyWun

um...an LS motor has 120 hp if im not mistaken. Youre going to have to add a CM 3 or 4 and some slicks to hit 12s...not to mention be a good driver, like me. Hope youre a good driver!

With the setup that I mentioned you're bound to hit 12s in no time, with an average driver and have a rebuilt fresh motor to build on. Sounds more reasonable to me!

and sushibug said bulletproof and 20psi and all that..with a stock LS motor your neither.


[Modified by SO3Burner, 3:12 AM 4/12/2002]

AlphaKennyWun

you want prestige? go buy a lexus, bmw, or benz
you want to go fast? screw al that spoon jdm crapm, put a t-u-r-b-o.
i wouldnt even put those parts in my car if they were given to me. no joke.
my car is stock interior and exterior. Ill be the first to admit, with an integra youre never going to get prestige. With speed, youll get the respect!.....*sounds like the fast and the furious *......


[Modified by SO3Burner, 3:49 AM 4/12/2002]

CivicHB_92

How much are eagle rods and JE pistons cost? Where can I get them?