Building turbo kit- What do i need and how much?
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Building turbo kit- What do i need and how much?
I want to build up my own turbo kit. I am new to turbo's and don't know much about them. I was going to run N/A but for my little D i think she needs some turbo.
I want to build a good kit, the cheapest way i can, still with a good kit. I can weld. 95 ex d16z6
Right now i wanna pice together a kit buying pieces here and there. Im in no hurry to install a turbo kit. I wanna know the basic things i can buy now and work on, paint, weld, ect (not fittings hoses ect.)
What are the basics that i can buy now, and how much $ (turbo, manifold ect)
Turbocharger. Are the 14b and T3 the best medium sized turbo for the $?
What im i supposed to look for in a turbo? Spins freely with no "shaft play"? Im guessing thats movement that isnt supposed to be there. How much do 14b's and T3's sell for online?
Manifold- I've heard the best manifold to modify is the 88-91 Honda CRX STD/DX, with a welded on adapter plate to match your turbo. Adapter plates are around $25, but how much for a stock manifold? I plan on welding on the correct plate, sand blasting it, then powdercoating it (i know people who do all of those)
Can i customize my cheap ebay header for a turbo header w an adapter plate?
Homemade downpipe- How big? 2.5 or 3"? Are there downpipe flanges that you can buy?
Injectors- DSM 440cc, 450cc injectors? I see some go for $60-$100? What is a good deal?
My motor- d16z6 with short ram intake, 4-2-1 header, aem pullies, Soon to have AEM cam gear. I was going to buy a cam for NA but now that i want to turbo can i run a stock cam or should i buy a turbo one for lower compression? How much, where at, and whats the 3 best turbo cams?
Will running stackable headgaskets (2) lower compression, and is that needed or not? In the future i plan on slightly porting the head and intake. Do i need to change anything in my bottom end? I heard ZC dohc pistons are good for d16's but i believe that was not for turbos.
Do i need to change my OBD?
Thanks alot guys im trying to understand everything more clearer. Ive been reading alot of info on here, and homemadeturbo.com. Thanks
I want to build a good kit, the cheapest way i can, still with a good kit. I can weld. 95 ex d16z6
Right now i wanna pice together a kit buying pieces here and there. Im in no hurry to install a turbo kit. I wanna know the basic things i can buy now and work on, paint, weld, ect (not fittings hoses ect.)
What are the basics that i can buy now, and how much $ (turbo, manifold ect)
Turbocharger. Are the 14b and T3 the best medium sized turbo for the $?
What im i supposed to look for in a turbo? Spins freely with no "shaft play"? Im guessing thats movement that isnt supposed to be there. How much do 14b's and T3's sell for online?
Manifold- I've heard the best manifold to modify is the 88-91 Honda CRX STD/DX, with a welded on adapter plate to match your turbo. Adapter plates are around $25, but how much for a stock manifold? I plan on welding on the correct plate, sand blasting it, then powdercoating it (i know people who do all of those)
Can i customize my cheap ebay header for a turbo header w an adapter plate?
Homemade downpipe- How big? 2.5 or 3"? Are there downpipe flanges that you can buy?
Injectors- DSM 440cc, 450cc injectors? I see some go for $60-$100? What is a good deal?
My motor- d16z6 with short ram intake, 4-2-1 header, aem pullies, Soon to have AEM cam gear. I was going to buy a cam for NA but now that i want to turbo can i run a stock cam or should i buy a turbo one for lower compression? How much, where at, and whats the 3 best turbo cams?
Will running stackable headgaskets (2) lower compression, and is that needed or not? In the future i plan on slightly porting the head and intake. Do i need to change anything in my bottom end? I heard ZC dohc pistons are good for d16's but i believe that was not for turbos.
Do i need to change my OBD?
Thanks alot guys im trying to understand everything more clearer. Ive been reading alot of info on here, and homemadeturbo.com. Thanks
12-20-2003, 05:01 PM
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Re: Building turbo kit- What do i need and how much? (EGcivicBoy)
You get what you pay for. Some professionals will tell you that p&p is actually not beneficial and the stock flow is as good as it gets, i don't think it is worth the money personally. Be careful with anything you buy but can't see prior to buying it, not a good situation. Get a quality exhuast manifold, don't go cheap, i know that that is your plan, but save your money and get a great setup vs a decent cheap setup. don't waste your money on the cam gear either, not gonna help, just get a good tunable air/fuel management, preferably Hondata s200b. my 2 cents.
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Re: Building turbo kit- What do i need and how much? (crvtec00)
Whats wrong w an older civic manifold that has a adapter plate welded on. I can also port that out too.
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Re: Building turbo kit- What do i need and how much? (EGcivicBoy)
for now that will be fine, but in the long run you are going to want a tubular equal length mani that makes the air travel a little farther than just stock manifold before it goes to the turbo.
12-20-2003, 07:46 PM
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Re: Building turbo kit- What do i need and how much? (EGcivicBoy)
Unclear on what your goals are for this vehicle. If you are going to rebuild, at least put in forged pistons. Can't offer more advice until I know what you want to accomplish.
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Re: Building turbo kit- What do i need and how much? (xtal)
Right now i wanna keep the motor stock, and only have a couple psi's untill i change pistons, valvetrain, and cam. I wanna know what turbo is good for its $ and all the other ?'s i asked
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Re: Building turbo kit- What do i need and how much? (EGcivicBoy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by EGcivicBoy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Whats wrong w an older civic manifold that has a adapter plate welded on. I can also port that out too. </TD></TR></TABLE>
no AC
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12-21-2003, 09:13 AM
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Re: Building turbo kit- What do i need and how much? (thrty8street)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by thrty8street »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
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No airconditioning? thats fine i already took it out. But who cares i wont be turboing soon i hit a gaurd rail last night
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No airconditioning? thats fine i already took it out. But who cares i wont be turboing soon i hit a gaurd rail last night
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Re: (thrty8street)
Shrug.
If you haven't already, pick up Corky Bell's book (Maximum Boost). Some of the info is getting dated, but it should at least put you in the position to start asking the right questions.
If you haven't already, pick up Corky Bell's book (Maximum Boost). Some of the info is getting dated, but it should at least put you in the position to start asking the right questions.
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