playahwitgame

so i was thikning what if my stock block blew a piston ring land, what would i do.my options are :

a: bore it out .5 get new pistons and rods and basiclly have a build done for give or take 1300 or so

b: sleeve it, pistons, rods and that alone will cost me roughly 3000 bucks.

what do you guys think is the best idea, i ofcourse would love the sleeves block but that runs very expensive. if something were ot happen, i could get 1300 or so eaily from parent.relative and pay them back, i cant say the same for 3000

what is th biggest bore i can do while staying safe on stock sleeves?and how much hp is attainable safely on a gsr block?basiclly what are my limits

keep in mind this will still be daily driver and i still think my 7psi 238whp is fast. lol so thanks for the responses in advance

NJIN BUILDR

You can safely be in the 350 hp range with stock sleeves and forged pistons.A 1mm overbore is max on the stock sleeves.The stock gsr rods and bolts are plenty strong for that hp if you stay around the stock redline.

JDMRice

u keep hearing the same **** over and over but its true, Its all in the tune. If i had a b series id go with option a.

playahwitgame

oh i know its all in the tune, but if the block straight up cant handle it, it cant handle it. if i were to go with a stock sleeve build i would definately go with a .5 overbore and hone and pistons and rods. i have a great tuner. is 375 too much to hope for on stock sleeves.

its just that getting sleeves is so expensive. i dont have the time or money to be building my block upwars of 450-600 hp. i just want an AWESOMEEEEEEEE street car that will rip alot of **** up. an integra at 350+ at the wheels i htink will do that, but ive been this way my whole life, i always want the best

hypotheticlly, wiht a good driver in an integra, what kind of 1/4 mile times will 350-375 get me?

playahwitgame

so is 350-375 attainable wiht just pistons, rods and stock sleeves??

JDMRice

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yes very

playahwitgame

would it be good by going with je pistons and eagle rods for this kind of hp?? and what exactly do i have to do to my head to rev to 9000? springs, retainers and valves. that would be a fair build for my budget and age

WickedHonda00

Hey man, I'm in the same shoes you are except I have to buy a new head as well. I'm thinking about going with SRP pistons from JE, 81.5mm bore, and Eagle or Scat rods. I could purchase these for about $700 together. New bearings ($200), stock crank, stock head. I'm thinking about using a block guard in case I want to boost upwards of 15psi. (Just a piece of mind)

Wiseco pistons are the best pistons IMO. Doesn't get any better than that. However, those can easily surpass $500 alone. Your choice, but I've heard of people boosting 18+psi w/ SRP pistons and Eagle rods on stock sleeves. Use Hondata to tune, it's the best street tuning setup I think.

By the way, if anyone has a B16a head their willing to part with, PM me PLEASE! I've got to have one in order to build this freakin block up. My original one is ruined!

Oh yeah, you said something about 9K RPM? Probably too much for reliability. It really just depends on how much you stay up there though. Here's the way I see it...you stay in high revvs (9K+)--&gt; you hurt your motors life dramatically. You stay in it sometimes--&gt; you risk hurting your motor dramatically. You stay out and away from high revvs--&gt; you extend the motors life dramatically.

It's not necessary to make your power goals with 9k. You can easily do those power goals with 8k.

playahwitgame

i over revved the other day so im just thinking for the peace of mind if it happens again. to be safe from it. i have no problem with my 8,200redline lol. building is just to expensive. once these pistons ring lands go, im doing it!!

Bseriescivic5

your gonna spend more than 1300 if you want to do it right, for just a pistons and rods motor

Mine cost well over 2k

B18C Turbo

You really cant forget about the hundreds and hundreds of dollars your going to spend at the honda/acura dealer. So many little knick nacks and o-rings/BS to buy it adds up fast, especially because all the crap at the dealer is way over priced for some reason.

playahwitgame

but for the most part. pistons and rods will run me about 7-800. and those little "knick knacks" at the dealer. plus assembly

ndogg

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so true...

playahwitgame

i know that, thats kind of expected. when i installed my turbo, i got so manu misc. **** easily totalling 200+

Bseriescivic5

dont forget machine work, that will be 300+ if you get it done right, bearings are another 185, gaskett kit is anbother 150, water pump, oil pump all these are vital parts that some people take shortcuts on.

playahwitgame

i know about the tib bits. to be honest man, not saying im trying to take shortcuts but my engine has 28,000 on it. everyhtign is mechaniclly fine. considering i have such low mileage, those are parts ide probably just use again. not being cheap, but its fine, theres nothign wrong with it. you know?

Bseriescivic5

you have to dissassemble the whole motor, its NEVER a good idea to reuse gasketts/bearings
Also why skimp out on such a critical part.

playahwitgame

ohh, not lie bearings and gaskets, but like the waterpump. oil pump. all those kind of things

Bseriescivic5

waterpump you could re-use, i wouldnt re-use the oil pump thou, thats pretty vital, if anything id upgrade to a ITR