redboy183

hey guys i just recently put a ls trans on my b16 in my hatch and the reason for this was bc my b16 gearbox was completly fried esp 3rd gear, the usual....i am not too dissapointed with the ls trans i must say although the car was noticably quicker with the b16 trans....my question is....i plan to boost this year and something tells me the ls trans is better to keep for better top end results with 9-10 psi on a stock b16 bc i really hate the short gears topping out too fast on b16's.....i was just hoping some of you guys had similar set ups and was curious for some advice on which trans for boost you believe is better on a b16, thanks

gunnerman

an LS trans is the way to go for a boosted b16...most boosted hondas go this route.

jayswat91

i'm running a very large turbo (70 trim)...and i'm too running an ls tranny...i love it, but mine doens't spool till about 5k!

...if you're running a smaller turbo like a t28, then i'd shoot for a gsr tranny, the gearing is somewhere between the ls and the b16 trannys...

but this is my oppinion only!...don't take it to heart, but i feel that with only 10psi, u'll prolly be running a smaller turbo with much more low-end power, and your et's should be faster with a gsr tranny in the 1/4

civic16

i have a boosted b16 with the b16 tranny n yes it is very short. its quick thou n for now im happy. i guess it depends on if the car is your daily or not. ls trans would be a nice daily and alot of ppl these days go with the ls trans when they boost there b16.

cjordan

iTrader: (1)

I have a GT35R powered B16 with a LS tranny and I love it. 3rd gear is alot of fun!!!!!

HighRevn

Ive always thought that a gsr or b16 tranny were the best for boost. Shorter gears mean faster acceleration, but then again Ive never had a LS tranny on a boosted setup, bump for more first hand experiences

SpoolnG2

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I have had the experience, and I can tell you in my opinion that an LS trans is a dog compared to a b16 trans. He is right, shorter gears mean faster acceleration. Plain and simple. A b16 trans with a set of slicks and your golden.

22's and Man Boobs

i love my ls trans

Schister66

I'd go with either a B16 or GSR tranny....the LS is too long for a rather torqueless engine like the B16. IMO, it would not be as fun for the streets.

redboy183

thanks to everyone for your responses....it helped me out a lot....the car is going to be my daily just because i recently got lo jack for free through my dads work ......lol anyway yeah i was figuring it wont be fun till about 4000-5000 with boost but after it spooled im sure i wouldnt complain bc with a b16 trans im sure i would experience something different but like i said its going to be my daily and i cant already stand the 5th gear on the highway......my set up was a t3/t4 50or60 trim 7-8lbs daily-----10-11 for for time

vti2

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HighRevn &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive always thought that a gsr or b16 tranny were the best for boost. Shorter gears mean faster acceleration, but then again Ive never had a LS tranny on a boosted setup, bump for more first hand experiences</TD></TR></TABLE>

you don´t move faster if you spinn your tyres like hell, you cann only move faster on the streets with traction and i dont think you drive with big slicks on the street every day.

SpoolnG2

BF Goodrich drag radials

LS Trans

vti2

Thats not a argument. Drag radials ar expensive and are not good on rain.
a street car must drive under all conditions

redboy183

agreed with vti2

SpoolnG2

Whatever, to each their own. Its proven though, same exact setup with a b16 trans is faster then with a LS trans. But hey what do I know, I did use both transmissions on my turbo setup. If you want a top end car then use that LS trans. If you want to go faster and have a better 1/4 mile time get the b16 and some different tires and other things. Just doesnt make sense to me to use a trans with a longer gear ratio so that your tires dont spin as much.


Modified by SpoolnG2 at 1:26 AM 1/13/2008

Blown90hatcH

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you don´t move faster if you spinn your tyres like hell, you cann only move faster on the streets with traction and i dont think you drive with big slicks on the street every day.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Boost by gear, better suspension setup, better tires.....don't bandaid it by putting the LS tranny in the car.

SpoolnG2

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Boost by gear, better suspension setup, better tires.....don't bandaid it by putting the LS tranny in the car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

DA_HONDA_BOY

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Modified by SpoolnG2 at 1:26 AM 1/13/2008</TD></TR></TABLE> something aint right its not 1/13/2008 yet

SpoolnG2

It also wasnt 2:17am when you posted. Whats your point?

vti2

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Boost by gear, better suspension setup, better tires.....don't bandaid it by putting the LS tranny in the car. </TD></TR></TABLE>

If you are putting more than 500hp on the street you cann make what you want you will allways spin your tires when boost kick in, and boost by gearr will not loose your problem, you schouldn´t put more than twaice of the boost for that your spring rated is and if you are running big HP´s you are also running alot of boost so i would say you are running at least 15lbs spring and thats enought to spinn your tires on the street.
For me a LS tranny ist the best one for a DD street car, if you are only driving a race car put a b16 one on it.

22's and Man Boobs

ls is the best trans for dd ESPECIALLY if you do lots of highway driving... but in the end, if you're driving a 500whp dd, chances are you're gonna need a built trans, so you might as well piece your own gear ratios and final drive together to fit YOUR specific needs

champLSinteg

I have a gsr in my daily driver doing lots of highway driving and its not bad at all. I love it. I switched to the gsr from the ls and it feels alot better. If it were mostly a track car then I would go b16. lots of factors come into play...gear ratios, final drive ratios, slick size, rev limit,...

gogunkergorilla

The higher the power the longer the gears need to be. You guys may not realize that b16 tranny was designed for more torque amplification on a low torque engine. Turbo engines have a lot more torque and do not need to take advantage of this. If your using a stock b16 tranny on a high hp engine you are likely not utilizing the engines full potential (limiting power so you can get traction, shifting more than necessary).

One of the best things to do utilize more power and get better traction is either to use a larger wheel diameter or lower the final drive. This keeps the ratios close for narrow powerbands, and lowers the torque amplification (which is useless on high torque engines).

champLSinteg

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gogunkergorilla &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> If your using a stock b16 tranny on a high hp engine you are likely not utilizing the engines full potential (limiting power so you can get traction, shifting more than necessary)</TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont think many people shift into 5th gear therefore I dont see how they would shift more. You need to size up everything so that you are maxing out 4th gear through the traps. If you dont have the power and you go through the traps in the middle of fourth gear with an LS then you need to go with smaller slick and shorter gears.

tealegg

b16 hands down. i have b16 hydro trannys in both my cars. DD and race/weekend car. in my weekend car i went from GSR to B16 and the b16 with slicks is FOR sure the way to go. if you are worried about High RPM's on the high way. dont drive so fast. with my Snow Tires 195 55 15 i cruse at 70 at 4k which isnt bad at all. for b16 trans.