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Old 01-29-2004, 07:55 PM
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Default Blue Box, need some help understanding this thing having some problems

I wasnt able to find the info i need through searching.
Maybe some of you can point me in the right direction
From what I understand this thing does not alter anything until boost?
So the car should run exactly the same at idle/normal driving.

With that said I am using a chipped p28(obd1) on a turbo h22
I am using a obd2 dohc blue box wired up from the turbocivic.net wiring diagram for a sohc 92-95 setup.
I have double checked all the wiring for the different boxes and made sure im using the right wires in the right spots.
Well the car will not idle and runs like severe ****.
I have re-wired this thing 3 times now to make sure.
Is there something i am missing as to why it wont work on my car?
I figured regardless it should start up and run like normal.
any thoughts,
TIA
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you are talking about the greddy blue box (not E-Mange) correct?
Old 01-29-2004, 08:31 PM
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yes just Greddy blue box, not e-manage
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the blue box already modifies the fuel curves on a STOCK ecu.(w/330 cc injectors)

the box DOES alter everything from idle to boost. using a modded ECU and aftermarket NON-ajustable fuel management is asking for trouble.

also OBD1 and OBD2 dont mix. I've tried. (96 GSR blue box + 95 GSR ECU AND 93 CIVIC SI ecu)
i cant really offer anymore than that, sorry
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Turbo E 604 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the blue box already modifies the fuel curves on a STOCK ecu.(w/330 cc injectors)

the box DOES alter everything from idle to boost. using a modded ECU and aftermarket NON-ajustable fuel management is asking for trouble.

also OBD1 and OBD2 dont mix. I've tried. (96 GSR blue box + 95 GSR ECU AND 93 CIVIC SI ecu)
i cant really offer anymore than that, sorry</TD></TR></TABLE>

hum... I thought they did mix, so much different information. some people say they do mix and some people say they dont.
either way i appreciate your help

I got some info from someone and gave me the idea of trying some 450's
If the blue box is setup for 310's and the stock computer is setup to run 240's then it should compensate on my setup from the 340's to the 450's. but the thing is the program im running is setup for b16/gsr injectors not sure on which, either way this isnt an h22 program

explain on the modded ecu trouble ?
The reason for the chipped p28 Is for the Rev limit otherwise i would be using a p13. I have a f20b, not an h22 actually, its just easier to reference some people dont know what an f20 is. with that said i need the 9k rev limit on the chipped p28 rather then the much lower limit on the p13
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just be like the rest of us and ditch it for vafc hack or hondata
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ProEater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just be like the rest of us and ditch it for vafc hack or hondata</TD></TR></TABLE>

I have no problem with that except i dont want hondata and Im waiting for my AFC to get back from APEXi after the screen went done
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anyone else?
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the person that told you that you could switch to the 450cc injectors must have thought that the "blue box" that you had was an E-Manage. You'll run into the same issues. Those blue boxes are specific for they're model year cars...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheShodan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the person that told you that you could switch to the 450cc injectors must have thought that the "blue box" that you had was an E-Manage. You'll run into the same issues. Those blue boxes are specific for they're model year cars...</TD></TR></TABLE>

not the person was told blue box not e-manage
And I swear so much diff info, people say they are compatahble some say they aren't.
I dont think there's a diff... slight details but apperantly they work the same
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