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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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i have a built b18b with stock sleeves. it has a garret 57 trim on it and i plan to run 20+ psi. i was jus wondering if a block guard would be a wise investment and if they are as easy to put in as they sound.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 12:29 PM
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there is a lot of debate on block guards, some swear by them some mock their very existence. the main argument is that if you have added stability at the top at the sleeve it will just balloon in the middle if it is going to fail. i would suggest either running stock sleeve or getting an after market sleeve.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:18 AM
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block guards!!! just stop being cheap and sleeve it and just call it a day!
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Old May 3, 2007 | 07:32 AM
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this may sound stupid, but is possible to put more than one block guard in?? like them in one on top of the other?
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Old May 3, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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why would you do that? The volume flow rate would be very resticting in the cooling passages. I am not a fan for block guard.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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if u stacked like 3 or 4 evenly spaced apart wouldnt that be better than just one at the top?
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Old May 3, 2007 | 07:55 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95dc2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this may sound stupid, but is possible to put more than one block guard in?? like them in one on top of the other?</TD></TR></TABLE>

it would everheat.

keep it stock, or sleeve it.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95dc2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u stacked like 3 or 4 evenly spaced apart wouldnt that be better than just one at the top?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sure, machining will make this work but think about the area left which coolant is allow to be in contact with the combustion camber. Less contact=more heat buildup.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95dc2teg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if u stacked like 3 or 4 evenly spaced apart wouldnt that be better than just one at the top?</TD></TR></TABLE>

at that point pin the block, but thats ancient technology. either leave it alone, or sleeve it.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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yea ive talked around and that wat evryone says keepit stock or sleeve it. im personally jus gonna keep it stock untill i can afford another block and sleeve it, like 2 months or so. as for the stacker guy.... usually if you think you have invented a good idea and you have never heard about it is because it was tryed and they were unsucessul lol found that out before
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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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ya i was just wondering about it. Im looking to get a bare block as well and getting it sleeved. getting bored with 300whp
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:10 AM
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People are making 600whp on stock sleeves.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:43 PM
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Sleeve it...Using a block guard is like putting a bandage on a bigger bandage. You still have a cahnce for failure because you are still utilizing the stock casting for support.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:18 PM
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actually i thought block gaurds were to help eliminate sleeve walk...
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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[IMG][/IMG] l_9cf155749437d4c826c0b39e539c2883.jpg
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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[IMG][/IMG] l_9cf155749437d4c826c0b39e539c2883.jpg [IMG][/IMG]
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:22 PM
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damnt i still havent figured out how to put pictures on this thing
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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you have to host the picture first
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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hey man tell you the truth i dont even know what hosting a pic is...
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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my car made 586whp with it
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by IntegraGSR-Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damnt i still havent figured out how to put pictures on this thing</TD></TR></TABLE>

you jus made my day lol
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Old May 4, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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I do beleive in block gaurds personally and i had a turbo 91 DA running 18psi pump gas daily driven and put over 10,000 hard miles on it before i sold it and the block was still in prestine shape... i would only install one of these if you are rebuilding a motor and not just trying to press one into a stock block... somtimes it can do more damage than prevention...it may cause the sleeves to shift and sit differently than desired thats why i say to install the BG and then get machine work done and install the new internals...
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