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Hey, i've got a 00 si with an f-max kit on it. my current turbo's a turbonetics t3/t4 and i'd like to upgrade to something that spools a little faster and has less lag to it. Right now, it starts spool at 3,000 rpms. Its mainly a street driven car and I'd like something that can make 300-350 whp. A ball bearing would be nice, but kind of expensive. Any suggestions please? Thanks
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Re: best turbo (LonelyDriver02)
if you wanna spool earlier...get a boost controller and wrap your mani...they both help a tad...may be able to get it down to 2500...any lower, you will need to boost up the compression a bit, but 2500-3000 is plenty good!
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Re: best turbo (MiraiZ)
if you wanna spool earlier...get a boost controller and wrap your mani...they both help a tad...may be able to get it down to 2500...any lower, you will need to boost up the compression a bit, but 2500-3000 is plenty good!
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Re: best turbo (GS-Rcivic)
I gotta reply cause I got schooled on this one before.
A high compression setup will not spool a turbo any faster than a lower compression setup. It deals more with displacement.
Think about it. a 1.8L with 9:1 CR spits out 1.8L of spent gas every 2 Revs.
And a 1.8L with 11:1 spits out 1.8L of gas every 2 revs, but has more power.
So both spool at some random number........3500, but the 11:1 gets to 3500RPM quicker than the 9:1 because the power output is higher.
A high compression setup will not spool a turbo any faster than a lower compression setup. It deals more with displacement.
Think about it. a 1.8L with 9:1 CR spits out 1.8L of spent gas every 2 Revs.
And a 1.8L with 11:1 spits out 1.8L of gas every 2 revs, but has more power.
So both spool at some random number........3500, but the 11:1 gets to 3500RPM quicker than the 9:1 because the power output is higher.
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I gotta reply cause I got schooled on this one before.
A high compression setup will not spool a turbo any faster than a lower compression setup. It deals more with displacement.
Think about it. a 1.8L with 9:1 CR spits out 1.8L of spent gas every 2 Revs.
And a 1.8L with 11:1 spits out 1.8L of gas every 2 revs, but has more power.
So both spool at some random number........3500, but the 11:1 gets to 3500RPM quicker than the 9:1 because the power output is higher.
A high compression setup will not spool a turbo any faster than a lower compression setup. It deals more with displacement.
Think about it. a 1.8L with 9:1 CR spits out 1.8L of spent gas every 2 Revs.
And a 1.8L with 11:1 spits out 1.8L of gas every 2 revs, but has more power.
So both spool at some random number........3500, but the 11:1 gets to 3500RPM quicker than the 9:1 because the power output is higher.
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Re: best turbo (Pelican)
higher compression spools faster because there is more exauhst energy...
basically like 1.8l of air coming out harder/faster than low compression
or that is what I thought..
basically like 1.8l of air coming out harder/faster than low compression
or that is what I thought..
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Re: best turbo (ekb18c)
maybe the gas temperatures would be higher, but shouldn't it spool at the same RPM, just the higher Compression Motor get to that RPM faster............
**The only thing I'm saying is that Full boost RPM should be the same. That's it**
[Modified by Pelican, 1:57 PM 1/26/2003]
**The only thing I'm saying is that Full boost RPM should be the same. That's it**
[Modified by Pelican, 1:57 PM 1/26/2003]
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higher compression spools faster because there is more exauhst energy...
basically like 1.8l of air coming out harder/faster than low compression
or that is what I thought..
basically like 1.8l of air coming out harder/faster than low compression
or that is what I thought..
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Re: best turbo (ekb18c)
I wished my turbo would get FULL BOOST at 3000 rpm.
I also bark 4th gear, and not (entirely) due to power output. A little too much negative camber and a chassis prone to wheelhop are killing off my traction.
Your mileage may differ with a low spooling turbo depending on how your suspension and power level are, but my $0.02 is aim for a spool of 3500+ rpm, even for street car, unless you're dealing with some gutless D-series w/ Greddy kit.
[Modified by J. Davis, 2:36 PM 1/26/2003]
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Re: best turbo (J. Davis)
I dont have too terrible of traction problems, of course i dont have nearly as much power as most of the rest of you do. But i guess i'll stick with my current turbo, save some cash. Thanks for all the help guys.
by the way, i like your icon with agent smith. i like the part when he was like "find them and destroy them" that was so funny.
by the way, i like your icon with agent smith. i like the part when he was like "find them and destroy them" that was so funny.
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Re: best turbo (LonelyDriver02)
I have to agree with Art. Save your $$ and stick with what you've got. Ball bearing turbos aren't that expensive. A GT-28 retails from us at $950. I expect to see the prices on these things start to drop.
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