b swap or sohc built
11-20-2003, 07:18 PM
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b swap or sohc built
well guys i just lost my screen name no that im that important but anyway i currently have a sohc turbo on my ek hb now the question is do i take the money and built my sohc totally or do i do a b series swap and buld it later
if some1 out there hase a sohc turbo fully built and or b series turbo please let me know what makes more sence to do
if some1 out there hase a sohc turbo fully built and or b series turbo please let me know what makes more sence to do
11-20-2003, 07:45 PM
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Re: b swap or sohc built (hondahooligan)
It depends on how much money you want to spend and what your horsepower goals are. You can make 400whp on a built D series if you do it right and it will cost less then buying a b series and starting from ground up.
11-21-2003, 02:45 PM
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Re: b swap or sohc built (norcalcrx)
thanx for the help now do u know someone with built sohc with 300++ whp or can u tell me where can i find more about this i will hate to start and find out that im wrong somehwere 
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11-21-2003, 06:32 PM
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Re: b swap or sohc built (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Build SOHC and boost. 
</TD></TR></TABLE> Its the cost of transmissions that really makes it a no brainer for me, I don't know about you guys but in New Zealand I can get 4-5 sohc trannies for the price of 1 dohc vtec transmission. 
</TD></TR></TABLE> Its the cost of transmissions that really makes it a no brainer for me, I don't know about you guys but in New Zealand I can get 4-5 sohc trannies for the price of 1 dohc vtec transmission.
11-26-2003, 07:02 AM
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Re: (Tad)
after doing the GSR Swap, re-building, then going turbo, I wish I would have just kept the SOHC and built the **** out of it. I blow it up, no problem, d blocks are a dime a dozen....
11-26-2003, 11:03 AM
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Re: b swap or sohc built (hondahooligan)
swaping and going all motor will be FAR easier. LS/Vtec well built and done correctly would still be easier. A turbo anything would be far more difficult. I'm not saying its that hard, but by comparisson it is. I personally have a built SOHC turbo and am now building it more. 250-300whp is easily achieved. I did it at 9psi untuned on a v-afc Dont let the potential fool you though, its a much more maintenence required project than you could possibly imagine. If you have no motor building experience or turbo experience, id say get a swap, learn that or try and build an ls/vtec. If you choose not to heed the risks of this car becoming your life, Welcome brother to the dark side, just deposit your pay checks at the machine shop. Good luck man!
11-26-2003, 11:21 AM
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Re: b swap or sohc built (Distorted)
I would sawp a b-series in and turbo it, then build later.
a stock LS or GSR motor can put out close to 300 hp and be fine
I may get flamed by all the SOHC'ers out there but...
using a SOHC over a B-series is like bring a knife to a gun fight.
my opinion
a stock LS or GSR motor can put out close to 300 hp and be fine
I may get flamed by all the SOHC'ers out there but...
using a SOHC over a B-series is like bring a knife to a gun fight.
my opinion
11-26-2003, 02:10 PM
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Re: b swap or sohc built (Foozball26)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Foozball26 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
using a SOHC over a B-series is like bring a knife to a gun fight.
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I wouldn't go as far as to say that.
using a SOHC over a B-series is like bring a knife to a gun fight.
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I wouldn't go as far as to say that.
11-26-2003, 02:13 PM
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for the price of a b16 swap (2500ish) you could do alot to a sohc... and crank up the boost.
and if it blows, get a new one. theyre cheap..
i say build and boost.
its cooler to beat someone with a 1.6 liter anyway.
what are your hp goals?
and if it blows, get a new one. theyre cheap..
i say build and boost.
its cooler to beat someone with a 1.6 liter anyway.
what are your hp goals?
11-26-2003, 02:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by llewsirc »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for the price of a b16 swap (2500ish) you could do alot to a sohc... and crank up the boost.
and if it blows, get a new one. theyre cheap..
i say build and boost.
its cooler to beat someone with a 1.6 liter anyway.
what are your hp goals? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont believe he mentioned a B16 for anything other then a head if he was going to LS/Vtec. And its cooler to beat someone w/ a 1.6 liter????? Is that also your excuse when you lose? "man i only have 1.6l engine, how was i supposed to win?"
I stick w/ my LS or LS/Vtec Vote. Which ever you can afford.
and if it blows, get a new one. theyre cheap..
i say build and boost.
its cooler to beat someone with a 1.6 liter anyway.
what are your hp goals? </TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont believe he mentioned a B16 for anything other then a head if he was going to LS/Vtec. And its cooler to beat someone w/ a 1.6 liter????? Is that also your excuse when you lose? "man i only have 1.6l engine, how was i supposed to win?"
I stick w/ my LS or LS/Vtec Vote. Which ever you can afford.
11-26-2003, 02:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigwig »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I stick w/ my LS or LS/Vtec Vote. Which ever you can afford.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the ls or ls/vtec will still need a turbo anyways. im also trying to decide myself if i should swap in a d series or build my sohc for more boost. i kinda like the idea of throwing in a b18 and slaping a turbo on that. it might be less of a headache than building the sohc. which would be more reliable at 250-300 horsepower...a built sohc or a stock b18?
I stick w/ my LS or LS/Vtec Vote. Which ever you can afford.</TD></TR></TABLE>
the ls or ls/vtec will still need a turbo anyways. im also trying to decide myself if i should swap in a d series or build my sohc for more boost. i kinda like the idea of throwing in a b18 and slaping a turbo on that. it might be less of a headache than building the sohc. which would be more reliable at 250-300 horsepower...a built sohc or a stock b18?
11-26-2003, 04:16 PM
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Re: b swap or sohc built (hondahooligan)
so what i undestand is that i can put out big whp with my sohc and also with a b swap
2500 i can pretty much get my bottom end build and may be 1000 for fuel management and ill be able to rock 25psi ( if turbo is capable) now
if i get b swap with parts, install and makein it run good will be around 3000
now 25psi in sohc will need lots of mantenance but im just planing to boost 25 when needed other wise it will be 15 daily driver
2500 i can pretty much get my bottom end build and may be 1000 for fuel management and ill be able to rock 25psi ( if turbo is capable) now
if i get b swap with parts, install and makein it run good will be around 3000
now 25psi in sohc will need lots of mantenance but im just planing to boost 25 when needed other wise it will be 15 daily driver
11-26-2003, 04:47 PM
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Re: b swap or sohc built (zigzag765213)
Ill let you know in a few weeks what 15psi on a built d series is like. We are looking to be in the 350whp range. Its gonna be fun. 
11-27-2003, 04:49 PM
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Re: b swap or sohc built (RyanCivic2000)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RyanCivic2000 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I wouldn't go as far as to say that. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Well when stock dohc motors make the same if not more than sohc motors (there will always be exceptions so don't be pissy ) what would you call it?
not to mention the torque aspect etc etc.
sohc's are cheap as hell though, no denying that fact. but who wants to swap motors every few months?
I wouldn't go as far as to say that.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Well when stock dohc motors make the same if not more than sohc motors (there will always be exceptions so don't be pissy
) what would you call it? not to mention the torque aspect etc etc.
sohc's are cheap as hell though, no denying that fact. but who wants to swap motors every few months?
11-27-2003, 11:01 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bigwig »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Is that also your excuse when you lose? "man i only have 1.6l engine, how was i supposed to win?"
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yep, you got me man... i dont know how you ever figured me out
he asked for my opinion, i gave it to him.
no need to be assholish
Is that also your excuse when you lose? "man i only have 1.6l engine, how was i supposed to win?"
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yep, you got me man... i dont know how you ever figured me out
he asked for my opinion, i gave it to him.
no need to be assholish
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