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09-19-2006, 12:31 PM
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Re: (Whiteintegra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whiteintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">....so are you saying that there is no possibility for boost off the line with ONLY crome or Uber?</TD></TR></TABLE>
im saying at the current time, anything is possible, could be tomorrow...who knows
im saying at the current time, anything is possible, could be tomorrow...who knows
09-19-2006, 01:35 PM
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Re: (Whiteintegra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whiteintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so this other guy that is building 5psi of boost is full of ****? </TD></TR></TABLE>
Yeah, Bret and I are lying. I'm sure neither of us are speaking from first hand experience
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Phil
Yeah, Bret and I are lying. I'm sure neither of us are speaking from first hand experience
. Phil
09-19-2006, 03:46 PM
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Re: (Whiteintegra)
It's fun 
Especially when you can get side ways in an AWD car, lol Two step I setup a while back. On my Honda I was building close to 14lbs easy
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Especially when you can get side ways in an AWD car, lol Two step I setup a while back. On my Honda I was building close to 14lbs easyRIGHT CLICK SAVE TARGET-AS
09-19-2006, 05:35 PM
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Re: (Whiteintegra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whiteintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hmmm...cool vid. However, im curious about your setup. please post specifics.</TD></TR></TABLE>
That was a car I had tuned. Ended up leaving it at 18lbs in first gear. After that 30lbs
My car is nothing special. GT3076RLE, 81.50mm B18b, Crower 62404 camshafts, 3" downpipe, AEM EMS, etc.
That was a car I had tuned. Ended up leaving it at 18lbs in first gear. After that 30lbs
My car is nothing special. GT3076RLE, 81.50mm B18b, Crower 62404 camshafts, 3" downpipe, AEM EMS, etc.
09-19-2006, 09:44 PM
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Re: (0x64)
so you guys are building over 10lbs no prob. hmm cause on my set up i'm just running a t3/t4 on a 2.0 with s300 and the only way i can get it to studer /shootflames and build 10lbs is it i preload the clutch. i have done every fuel/ign combo i can think of. maybe i'm doing somthing wrong.
09-20-2006, 04:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by See Are X »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how would this work? Will this hurt the motor or turbo at all?
Modified by See Are X at 9:52 PM 9/18/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>#
Fine for making 5psi or whatever on the line, but if your running 10psi max boost then when the car is racing along at about 4700 its gonna fall flat on its face with sky high EGTs and very poor power as you have taken all the ignition advance out.
The boost portion you are running on the road needs to be like a typical ECU map for power and driveablilty
Modified by See Are X at 9:52 PM 9/18/2006</TD></TR></TABLE>#
Fine for making 5psi or whatever on the line, but if your running 10psi max boost then when the car is racing along at about 4700 its gonna fall flat on its face with sky high EGTs and very poor power as you have taken all the ignition advance out.
The boost portion you are running on the road needs to be like a typical ECU map for power and driveablilty
09-20-2006, 07:17 AM
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Re: (Whiteintegra)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Whiteintegra »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so this other guy that is building 5psi of boost is full of ****? </TD></TR></TABLE>
well, it depends on their turbo perhaps...the turbo will spin some regardless, especially if it is a small ball bearing turbo
if they told me they were getting 5 psi out of an SC61, i would tell them either their guage is off our they needed glasses...
well, it depends on their turbo perhaps...the turbo will spin some regardless, especially if it is a small ball bearing turbo
if they told me they were getting 5 psi out of an SC61, i would tell them either their guage is off our they needed glasses...
09-20-2006, 09:36 AM
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i build 4.7psi all day long just by getting on the 2step in cromepro...i have many, many logs to prove this also.
i want to try that deal that hondaguyef posted...would work well with vtec set at teh 20mph limit because i dont make any boost on my low cam during normal driving, espescially below 20mph....i think that will work very well...just need to give it a shot.
i want to try that deal that hondaguyef posted...would work well with vtec set at teh 20mph limit because i dont make any boost on my low cam during normal driving, espescially below 20mph....i think that will work very well...just need to give it a shot.
09-20-2006, 09:52 AM
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Re: (JonnyCoupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JonnyCoupe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">. . . about 4700 its gonna fall flat on its face with sky high EGTs and very poor power as you have taken all the ignition advance out.
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these changes were made to the low cam fuel and timing maps. So when your moving you'll be in the high cam, which is untouched. I hope you're not in a vtec car racing on the low cam only
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these changes were made to the low cam fuel and timing maps. So when your moving you'll be in the high cam, which is untouched. I hope you're not in a vtec car racing on the low cam only
09-20-2006, 10:16 AM
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Re: (boostedej1)
im some what new to this tuning deal, but whats the point of boosting off the line if its hard enough to get traction on a boosted motor during a rolling start?
09-20-2006, 12:22 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .nate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive personally built 12psi off the line with a sc60 on a b18c, and also 15psi with a sc61 on a b16 using crome.</TD></TR></TABLE>
here comes the call outs.....
here comes the call outs.....
09-20-2006, 12:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by .nate »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ive personally built 12psi off the line with a sc60 on a b18c, and also 15psi with a sc61 on a b16 using crome.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Similar results here but, Xenocron said it can't be done so, we must be imagining things.
Phil
Similar results here but, Xenocron said it can't be done so, we must be imagining things.
Phil
09-20-2006, 01:01 PM
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Re: (crvtkllr)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by crvtkllr »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">im some what new to this tuning deal, but whats the point of boosting off the line if its hard enough to get traction on a boosted motor during a rolling start?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'd also like to know really what is the point in building all this boost off the line if you can make enough power by revving high to break traction anyway without boost?
I'd also like to know really what is the point in building all this boost off the line if you can make enough power by revving high to break traction anyway without boost?
09-20-2006, 06:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LeGeND4LiFe »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Definitely I see that, but without slicks and excellent traction theres not much usefulness of building boost off the line? </TD></TR></TABLE>
why do you say that? in my case im prolly putting down less than 100whp without boost...if i could build 5psi off the line im launching with 150whp.....what do you think is going to get out of the hole and get going faster???
tell me this, if you had traction....
wouldnt launching with 300whp get you a better time than launching with 150whp? so if i had a typical boosted gsr setup and launched with no boost verses launching with 15psi.......TRUST me launching with 300whp will get me out of the hole faster, get the turbo to full boost instantly and i will get full boost instantly in 2nd and make WAY better times...if launching wth no boost now i have to wait for the turbo to spool, prolly wont get full boost in 1st gear and that means that there is more spool time in 2nd.
i just dont understand how you think that launching with no boost would be better? more boost is ALLWAYS better lol...if you dont get traction you need bigger slicks
EDIT: oh oh im a retard...your saying why build boost on street tires when you have no traction? well i think we would all agree but thats not what we are talking about here....we are talking about making more boost because we have enough traction to handle it
why do you say that? in my case im prolly putting down less than 100whp without boost...if i could build 5psi off the line im launching with 150whp.....what do you think is going to get out of the hole and get going faster???
tell me this, if you had traction....
wouldnt launching with 300whp get you a better time than launching with 150whp? so if i had a typical boosted gsr setup and launched with no boost verses launching with 15psi.......TRUST me launching with 300whp will get me out of the hole faster, get the turbo to full boost instantly and i will get full boost instantly in 2nd and make WAY better times...if launching wth no boost now i have to wait for the turbo to spool, prolly wont get full boost in 1st gear and that means that there is more spool time in 2nd.
i just dont understand how you think that launching with no boost would be better? more boost is ALLWAYS better lol...if you dont get traction you need bigger slicks
EDIT: oh oh im a retard...your saying why build boost on street tires when you have no traction? well i think we would all agree but thats not what we are talking about here....we are talking about making more boost because we have enough traction to handle it
09-20-2006, 06:48 PM
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Re: (fast2camciv)
spinning is not always a bad thing off the line its the amount of spinning you dont want to dead hook off the line it will bogg. when i was building 22psi on the line with my car slicks (24.5x9x13) i could still cut low 1.60 60 foots
09-21-2006, 09:35 AM
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Re: (hondaguyef)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondaguyef »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Similar results here but, Xenocron said it can't be done so, we must be imagining things.
Phil</TD></TR></TABLE>
Guess so. My imagination must be damn good hahaah
Similar results here but, Xenocron said it can't be done so, we must be imagining things.
Phil</TD></TR></TABLE>
Guess so. My imagination must be damn good hahaah
09-21-2006, 04:20 PM
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you guys need to post your crome/crome pro maps so we can all stop imagining things. BTW, i have crome pro and i don't see any kind of 2 step feature in it.
09-21-2006, 06:01 PM
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Re: (Whiteintegra)
I stopped being lazy again... its that time of the year around here to be sick. I changed my settings in uber, according to whoever that was on the first page. I was making 4 psi with basicaly stock settings on uber. Now i can make 10 psi, mind you this is a SOHC with a pretty good sized turbo. Sorry bout that crome, someone chime in.