Another turbo S2000 complete...
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ya, but paying big $ for one already made is the problem. Id rather get cores, make it from scratch to fit perfectly
I dont understand. I bet that there is a RAD that is made for a production car that would work no problem. Like signal, they use a 240 rad but just with different mounting points and an extended water pipe. I think you are making the RAD part much harder than it really needs to be. I would do some measurements and just search for a rad close to that size. I will bet you can find one NP
I noticed you never answered the battery location question.... or i missed it somehow... and i didn't see it in the car in any of your pics....
Do you get to keep the stock battery location with that manifold? I notice some custom made heat shields, which is nice. What about the fuse box?
Reason I ask is I was considering the Full Race manifold, but you have to move battery and fuse box, as you probably know. I am interested in keeping the stock locations intact if at all possible.
I am working on a turbo project for my S and choosing a manifold is proving to be difficult. The inlinepro t3 manifold keeps the stock oil filter, batttery and fuse box locations judging from the pics I have seen floating around s2ki. But I like the look of the one you have for converting to a top mount intercooler, or even an air/water setup. I like how high up the turbo sits, and the wastergate is not right next to the head or battery. The outlet off the turbo is much more accessible, it would make it easier to run piping off of that turbo to the top mounts or a modified Vortech/Comptech air/water (or custom made) due to the high turbo location. most of the manifolds place the turbo so low in the bay, it just makes more sense to run to a FMIC, IMO. Less restrictive with less bends.. etc...
But I am seriously playing with an air/water idea for more consistency over intake temps, cuz I have not seen it done on an S, originallity, etc etc.. so many reasons...
And if you don't mind, how much is that manifold? there is no info on lovefabs site about S200 manifolds at all, at least not the last time I checked.
Thanks!
Modified by civicgeek9 at 6:34 AM 1/28/2005
Modified by civicgeek9 at 6:40 AM 1/28/2005
Do you get to keep the stock battery location with that manifold? I notice some custom made heat shields, which is nice. What about the fuse box?
Reason I ask is I was considering the Full Race manifold, but you have to move battery and fuse box, as you probably know. I am interested in keeping the stock locations intact if at all possible.

I am working on a turbo project for my S and choosing a manifold is proving to be difficult. The inlinepro t3 manifold keeps the stock oil filter, batttery and fuse box locations judging from the pics I have seen floating around s2ki. But I like the look of the one you have for converting to a top mount intercooler, or even an air/water setup. I like how high up the turbo sits, and the wastergate is not right next to the head or battery. The outlet off the turbo is much more accessible, it would make it easier to run piping off of that turbo to the top mounts or a modified Vortech/Comptech air/water (or custom made) due to the high turbo location. most of the manifolds place the turbo so low in the bay, it just makes more sense to run to a FMIC, IMO. Less restrictive with less bends.. etc...
But I am seriously playing with an air/water idea for more consistency over intake temps, cuz I have not seen it done on an S, originallity, etc etc.. so many reasons...
And if you don't mind, how much is that manifold? there is no info on lovefabs site about S200 manifolds at all, at least not the last time I checked.
Thanks!
Modified by civicgeek9 at 6:34 AM 1/28/2005
Modified by civicgeek9 at 6:40 AM 1/28/2005
Just got off the phone with Cody.
312whp/202tq @8psi on Payn's Mustang Dyno. Very conservative tune, 91 octance, good #'s. Nice work Cody and Devin
He'll post the dyno chart soon, maybe later tonight.
cheers
312whp/202tq @8psi on Payn's Mustang Dyno. Very conservative tune, 91 octance, good #'s. Nice work Cody and Devin
He'll post the dyno chart soon, maybe later tonight.
cheers
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So that made me go back to their site.. I didn't realize they had 2 sections to their site now. So this time of course I found the fabrication section that has the S in it. Have they launched a new site recently?
I see where it states battery and heater controls are moved. No A/C either from what I can tell. Sucking. Cuz the A/C system on the S is phenominal, even keeps you cool with the top down in the Texas heat.
Interested to seethe #'s.
GITWIDI: Do you know why he would run 91 octane on his boosted S? Is there not 93 available in his area? I mean, I wouldn't run less than 93 in my N/A f20c, let alone a boosted one. Just curious.
So that made me go back to their site.. I didn't realize they had 2 sections to their site now. So this time of course I found the fabrication section that has the S in it. Have they launched a new site recently?
I see where it states battery and heater controls are moved. No A/C either from what I can tell. Sucking. Cuz the A/C system on the S is phenominal, even keeps you cool with the top down in the Texas heat.

Interested to seethe #'s.
GITWIDI: Do you know why he would run 91 octane on his boosted S? Is there not 93 available in his area? I mean, I wouldn't run less than 93 in my N/A f20c, let alone a boosted one. Just curious.
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Battery/fuse box must be moved. AC can easily be saved with a little bit of line bending.
Yep, made 312.1WHP/201.9WTQ at 8psi. 11.5:1 A/F, 16 degrees total timing. Average of 91 octane fuel, had two gallons of 87 in there(it was all I had to start up with at the shop), and filled it up with around 10 gallons of 92.
If it makes the power on 91 octane, itll make it much safer on 93, that was my mentality anyway.
The car is just STUPID fast. Ya, my 400whp SRT4 was fast, but I honestly think this will blow the doors off that because of near ZERO lag.
3900rpm-9krpm shows damn near 200ft/lb torque all the way across, peaking out at 8k. Full boost seems to hit at 3500-3900, I didnt save the logs/scrutinize them much. 1st, most of 2nd gear is pointless, even if ***** shifting. I slammed the gears ones, spun through 2nd, hit 3rd and ripped right to the rev limiter. Poor clutch couldnt catch 3rd hard enough
So before the track season begins, Im going to have to tack a new clutch onto the list
Yep, made 312.1WHP/201.9WTQ at 8psi. 11.5:1 A/F, 16 degrees total timing. Average of 91 octane fuel, had two gallons of 87 in there(it was all I had to start up with at the shop), and filled it up with around 10 gallons of 92.
If it makes the power on 91 octane, itll make it much safer on 93, that was my mentality anyway.
The car is just STUPID fast. Ya, my 400whp SRT4 was fast, but I honestly think this will blow the doors off that because of near ZERO lag.
3900rpm-9krpm shows damn near 200ft/lb torque all the way across, peaking out at 8k. Full boost seems to hit at 3500-3900, I didnt save the logs/scrutinize them much. 1st, most of 2nd gear is pointless, even if ***** shifting. I slammed the gears ones, spun through 2nd, hit 3rd and ripped right to the rev limiter. Poor clutch couldnt catch 3rd hard enough
So before the track season begins, Im going to have to tack a new clutch onto the list
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Yep, and I had to pass her on to a new owner. IT did 150/127 on a mustang dyno, only revving to 6500 
The S2k graphs/videos will be up before the weekend is over. Have to scan them, upload the video, etc. And yes, the 312/202 was made on a Mustang dyno as well

The S2k graphs/videos will be up before the weekend is over. Have to scan them, upload the video, etc. And yes, the 312/202 was made on a Mustang dyno as well
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If it makes the power on 91 octane, itll make it much safer on 93, that was my mentality anyway.
So before the track season begins, Im going to have to tack a new clutch onto the list
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Thanks for the info on the A/C. And I understand you point with the 91 octane. Makes sense, but I would've tried to get what I am going to run daily driven in it for tuning perosnally. Regardless, it'l be all good I'm sure.
Have you looked into clutches at all? Heard any horror stories?
Keep up the good work.
If it makes the power on 91 octane, itll make it much safer on 93, that was my mentality anyway.
So before the track season begins, Im going to have to tack a new clutch onto the list
</TD></TR></TABLE>Thanks for the info on the A/C. And I understand you point with the 91 octane. Makes sense, but I would've tried to get what I am going to run daily driven in it for tuning perosnally. Regardless, it'l be all good I'm sure.
Have you looked into clutches at all? Heard any horror stories?
Keep up the good work.
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Thanks for the info on the A/C. And I understand you point with the 91 octane. Makes sense, but I would've tried to get what I am going to run daily driven in it for tuning perosnally. Regardless, it'l be all good I'm sure.
Have you looked into clutches at all? Heard any horror stories?
Keep up the good work.
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This may be a basemap thatll be used in the future for "broader horizons", so I wanted it to be VERY safe, yet still make power, and make for an easy "touch up" from the local tuner.
As for clutches, Ill run anything but a stiff ACT. My brother blew his LS trans to pieces with a 6 puck unspring disk, XTSS(super high pressure PP).
Weve got it good with Exedy, I may try that one!
Thanks for the info on the A/C. And I understand you point with the 91 octane. Makes sense, but I would've tried to get what I am going to run daily driven in it for tuning perosnally. Regardless, it'l be all good I'm sure.
Have you looked into clutches at all? Heard any horror stories?
Keep up the good work.
</TD></TR></TABLE>This may be a basemap thatll be used in the future for "broader horizons", so I wanted it to be VERY safe, yet still make power, and make for an easy "touch up" from the local tuner.
As for clutches, Ill run anything but a stiff ACT. My brother blew his LS trans to pieces with a 6 puck unspring disk, XTSS(super high pressure PP).
Weve got it good with Exedy, I may try that one!
ever think about something better than ACT?
Don't get me wrong, ACT and Exedy make nice clutches...
But do you want to swap out your clutch all the time? Or go with somehting that's a bit overkill and should last a hell of a lot longer? I've been drooling over the Tilton twin disk C/C clutch.
Kind of do it once and forget about it for a long time. But I am lead footed like a mother ****** and I go through clutches like nobody I have ever met.
Don't get me wrong, ACT and Exedy make nice clutches...
But do you want to swap out your clutch all the time? Or go with somehting that's a bit overkill and should last a hell of a lot longer? I've been drooling over the Tilton twin disk C/C clutch.
Kind of do it once and forget about it for a long time. But I am lead footed like a mother ****** and I go through clutches like nobody I have ever met.

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Woah, really? hah I didn't know it went that far!
Woah, really? hah I didn't know it went that far!
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I havent confirmed it yet, but Ive heard through the grapevine that they are easily interchangeable.
Heres the dyno graph! Also edited into page 1.
Heres the dyno graph! Also edited into page 1.
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Well, I know I need an alignment; until third gear, the rear end consistently walks toward the passenger side
In other words, dont bother full throttle until you are in third gear, unless you like wheel-spin.
In other words, dont bother full throttle until you are in third gear, unless you like wheel-spin.


