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Old Mar 10, 2003 | 10:34 PM
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Glad to see that Hondata's technical diagrams could be of some help.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 04:45 AM
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can you hear the fuel pump cutting on?? if you have the walbro, you will hear it turn on.

have you had the ignition switch recall done?? if not, that could be the problem

what about using your key with the chip in it? maybe it sounds stupid, but you are using the immobilizer key, correct.... and yes, the immobilizer WILL work on the AEM EMS
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 05:21 AM
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ignition switch recall... hmm no idea what the is.. how the works?

.. but I am using the same key as I used before in my car I only got one


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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 05:33 AM
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there was a probelm with the ignition switch and they had a recal, something was wrong with the relay and it cause the fuel pump to not cut on..... a couple days after i put my engine back in, i had that problem, and had to have my Lude towed to Honda to get it fixed
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 06:04 AM
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My guess is that its a wiring problem. Besides he said that he can hear the fuel pump prime.. Is the car turning over and just not starting?? Or is it just dead in the water.?
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 06:10 AM
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well i just finish checking and i get spark on all the sparkplugs.... I'm re-wiring again but I got it right like the diagram above so I doubt that will make a differents..
I had no prob with my ignition switch and I hear the fule pump when in the on position... so i doubt is that...


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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 06:32 AM
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here's pic of my wiring



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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 09:16 AM
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well i just finish checking and i get spark on all the injectors..... I'm re-wiring again but I got it right like the diagram above so I doubt that will make a differents..
I had no prob with my ignition switch and I hear the fule pump when in the on position... so i doubt is that...
That is scary if you do!

are you sure is the injectors? i told you you should be able to hear them clicking!
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 09:22 AM
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I ment to say the spark plugs .... and the injector do click... I use a 9V battery to test them.... and I know I'm getting fuel to from the fuel pump because i turn the car to the on position with with the fuel rail disconnected by mistake.. needless to say that I sprayed fuel
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 09:34 AM
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use a 9V battery to test them....
i hoep you disconnected your ECU before you did that... you ECU works on a 5 volt refeerence, anything over 5 volts can fry your ECU
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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I took all the injectors out to test them... I'm in so much luck that i drop one of the nut that goes to the fuel rail now I only have 2 arggggg


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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 09:42 AM
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oh, ok, just making sure, you NEVER want to send a current back through the ECU, ESPECIALLY if it's over 5 volts
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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well since that I'll have to get her towed to SFP tomorrow.. since I can figure out the prob.. I cqall AEM and they told me to addd more fuel to the crank table and I did 10% at a time but no luck still have the same prob....
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 11:11 AM
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this just keep getting better just call SFP to have my car check there and tune... and now they tell me they can do it till the end of next week.... I can't wait that long...
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 11:56 AM
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could somebody with a setup similar to you give you their configuration maps and all that you need, so you can retar timing and add a lil fuel just to be on the rich side till you get it tuned?
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 12:14 PM
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I dont think you are going to be able to start the car w/ those big injectors w/ the stock ECU


My car started up just fine with 450cc DSM injectors and a stock ECU.

I think the wiring is the problem.

You probably had an safc/vafc or some type of fuel control. 450s will not idle on a stock ecu
I had already taken out the VAFC because we were in the proccess of installing the AEM EMS, injectors and regulator all at the same time. It started up with one turn of the key and idled fine. I only started it once before installing the EMS just to make sure the wiring was good. It almost died when I gave it gas, but it started and idled fine.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 02:05 PM
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I allready try the old ecu and it has the same problem... I'm think I might try to use my old injectors just to see if I can get it running... with the ems... I'm not sure what to do now...
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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Default Re: AEM EMS help... (LJR-LUDE01)

You probably had an safc/vafc or some type of fuel control. 450s will not idle on a stock ecu
Try it sometime. You are wrong.

I doubt they'd idle longer than five minutes without foulling the plugs, it bogs over 2000 rpms, but you can move your car around the yard or garage in a pinch.
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Old Mar 11, 2003 | 03:49 PM
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Does your car even turn over? If it cranks and doesnt' catch, then try pressing the gas pedal down while cranking. If it starts, then you have to much crank fuel. If there is excessive cranking before the motor will catch, then you don't have enough crank fuel.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 01:24 PM
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Default Re: AEM EMS help... (Quaalude)

If there is excessive cranking before the motor will catch, then you don't have enough crank fuel.
I came back to check replies and I noticed this, which is exactly what my car does.

Thanks for the tip.
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Old Mar 12, 2003 | 01:49 PM
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well I don't think that' the problem... like I told quaalude I bump up his crank table 30% i think that was more than enough to get my car started if that was the prob... MAse is coming over to help me... he is bringing also another resistor box just in case mine is broken... hopefully he can figure it out...
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