Is this possible with a very good tune?on a D?


Modified by dabig1 at 5:21 PM 11/28/2004

 

I believe you can answer your own question.

 

setup???

 

it depends on what turbo you are using. 20 psi could be on a 14b or a sp67... very different

 

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I am still debating on a setup...

d16 block
stock bore
vitara pistons
eagle's

Stock head vtec/non-vtec don't matter

BMC mani
16g(good for 20psi?)
Johny racecar intercooler
Uberdata
i dont know if 450's wouldbe enough

I'm steal searching around,i did not expect everybody to figure out everything for me...

 

On a stock bottom end? No.

 

um, 20psi on d sleeves, probably not.

 

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even if its posted?

 

Not necessarily true. My buddy here is pushing 21lbs with a T3/T04E (dont know the wheel trims) on pump gas with CP pistons, Eagle rods and stock sleeves. Granted he has a very good tune and doesnt push the RPM.

 

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even if its posted?</TD></TR></TABLE>

To be honest I am going to say no. I dont think a D series with a stock bottom end would last at 20lbs from your run of the mill T3/T04E or T3/T04B on pump gas.

 

dabig1 has been on hmt a few too many times, lol

 

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To be honest I am going to say no. I dont think a D series with a stock bottom end would last at 20lbs from your run of the mill T3/T04E or T3/T04B on pump gas.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Did you read my other post?

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I am still debating on a setup...

d16 block
stock bore
vitara pistons
eagle's

Stock head vtec/non-vtec don't matter

BMC mani
16g(good for 20psi?)
Johny racecar intercooler
Uberdata
i dont know if 450's wouldbe enough

I'm steal searching around,i did not expect everybody to figure out everything for me...

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why do you say that?is that a bad thing?

 

no, i just like my motor too much to trust myself to drill and tap a hole in it. hmt has some good ****

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no, i just like my motor too much to trust myself to drill and tap a hole in it. hmt has some good ****</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol,i like to do stuff by my self,i enjoy it more

 

i do a lot of things by myself, but i'm too poor to afford a new block if i **** it up.lol

 

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Did you read my other post?

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I only read this post. I'm not familiar with the Suzuki Vitara pistons. What would your final compression ratio be at with Suzuki Vitara pistons. 20lbs with a 16G, good tuning and keeping the RPM conservative you should be fine.

 

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I only read this post. I'm not familiar with the Suzuki Vitara pistons. What would your final compression ratio be at with Suzuki Vitara pistons. 20lbs with a 16G, good tuning and keeping the RPM conservative you should be fine.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Vitara pistons are known to hold up to 22psi,they are mad of higher grade materials and have beefier ringlands.the eagles should hold fine.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wantboost &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i do a lot of things by myself, but i'm too poor to afford a new block if i **** it up.lol</TD></TR></TABLE>

I destroyed my dads 2.9 ford ranger block by trying to take the pulley off when we took it apart to rebuilt it.The pulley was giving me a real hard time.

New Block:$180
New pulley:$60

Learning that you should use a puller to remove pulley:priceless

 

lol, i could probably find a new b16 bare block for a couple hundred bucks, but if i did then it would just lead to more money as i would get it sleeved

 

I've done 20psi on a stock LS on shell 93 octane. Mydyno sheet is on here somewhere. The car is still running stock. I tuned the car myself. check out my sig

 

Its doable as long as the charge system is efficient at the flow and boost levels. Static compression is going to have to be around 8:1 however.

I wouldn't want to daily drive it at those boost levels. Your going to run into periodic detonation due to things out of your control. Their really isn't a good enough detonation management system on the market to take care of you in these instances.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 2000civicsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I've done 20psi on a stock LS on shell 93 octane. Mydyno sheet is on here somewhere. The car is still running stock. I tuned the car myself. check out my sig</TD></TR></TABLE>

Holy **** is your engine on stockk internals?LS engines can handle 20psi?more info please!

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by danl &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Its doable as long as the charge system is efficient at the flow and boost levels. Static compression is going to have to be around 8:1 however.

I wouldn't want to daily drive it at those boost levels. Your going to run into periodic detonation due to things out of your control. Their really isn't a good enough detonation management system on the market to take care of you in these instances.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah,i was thinking maybe 16psi daily driven and 20psi at the track.
On a y7 the comp. is 8.5:1,but i think a little higher on z6.i still dont know what head i'm gonna use...

 

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Also,are you daily drivin 20psi?