<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">As typical, the dyno lost the tach signal through the midrange, but i'll post both the hp/tq vs. rpm and the hp vs. speed tomorrow. This was with 40psi base fuel pressure. Had i known we were going to push the injectors that far, i would have upped the fuel pressure to begin with. It's running a big weldon pump.

I think 1600's will be ok with more fuel pressure. I think you'll find the limit of the fuel before the injectors. 1600's with about 65-70psi base should get you there.

No vids, but i'll post the sheets tomorrow...</TD></TR></TABLE>

cool. thanks tony. ill post when the results when we get it re-tuned on the 1600's

 

Uncorrected numbers now Greg, you don't get to add the 20% altitude fudge factor.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uncorrected numbers now Greg, you don't get to add the 20% altitude fudge factor. </TD></TR></TABLE>

LOL

 

what we're not in Utah anymore?

 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Brent L &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> i'm not gonna get into the hole dyno argument kelly..but i've dyno'd here california houston ,pensylvania,new jersey ,florida
and my personal stuff always seem to throw down the same number..hummm.....
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im not an expert between corrected vs uncorrected dyno numbers. so i wont get into it. I just want to have fun and make some power. and get my phat *** prelude to make some fast passes. regarless of corrected hp or not.

 

I don't wanna argue about it either, i've said my part time and time again. I have done a ton of research on it, and am 100% sure the dynojet correction for altitude is over inflated in turbocharged applications. But i don't wanna argue. Just post the corrected and uncorrected numbers and people will take it for what it is.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tony1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I don't wanna argue about it either, i've said my part time and time again. I have done a ton of research on it, and am 100% sure the dynojet correction for altitude is over inflated in turbocharged applications. But i don't wanna argue. Just post the corrected and uncorrected numbers and people will take it for what it is. </TD></TR></TABLE>

i hear ya and agree.

 

What are you idling the 1600's at? Is this a motec controlled car?

Damn, this is just crazy. I would like to see 650whp on E85. Who needs more then that on the street with FWD???

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Justin Olson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What are you idling the 1600's at? Is this a motec controlled car?

Damn, this is just crazy. I would like to see 650whp on E85. Who needs more then that on the street with FWD???</TD></TR></TABLE>

I assume you are talking to tony. since i have yet to tune on 1600's. but i tune on AEM, and also plan to put the car in the 650 range.

 

It idles around 1100, with a Motec M4 and no IAC. I could get it to idle lower, but w/o an IAC, it'll die on cold starts and on decel sometimes.

The goal with this car is to run low 10's on "pump gas" at 2500lbs. It's allen from honda heaven's car, he turned it back into a real street car and put the 67 back on it. It's already gone 10.1 with this same turbo on C16 at a little under 600whp. It's really setup more for radials right now though, that's why it has such a small spring in the gate. He's running 235/60/15's on the street with motec controlling the boost by gear. Probably the fastest honda on the street i've ever driven.

 

Allen's E85

Another customer, E85 1000cc injectors, maxed to the point of leaning out up top.

 

Good work Tony!

 

WOW!

 

Would dual bosch 044's and a set of 1600cc injectors keep up with a ~650whp setup on E85?

Justin

 

good **** tony!

hope to see similar results in early jan for a friends car

and my dyno comment was a joke,
does no one remember the testing me and servion did

anyone know if SFWD cars are allowed to run E85? it is pump gas, but i thought i read that eth wasnt allowed?

 

I was just having a thought. Tony, what base fuel pressure did you run on the 550whp run with 1000cc injectors?

Should you be able to make 1.6 times the power with 1600cc injectors?

550WHP X 1.6 = 880whp???

 

do you have an uncorrected dyno sheet with RPM from this H22?

 

Different ECU's have different ways of calculating duty cycle for some reason. I have no idea why though, as it's a simple calculation. Anyways, on the 550 pull it was leaning out up top pretty bad, so they were way maxed out. On the 620 pull, it was showing 100% duty cycle in the log, but it was not leaning out at all. For some reason the motec shows a higher duty cycle than any other system i've used. I'm not exactly sure why.

 

Good job Tony

 

How much harder do you feel comfortable pushing Allens car with a bigger wastegate spring and more fuel pressure?

Justin

 

i won't know until we get it back on the dyno, can't really guess at that kind of stuff, just have to tune it and see what it likes.

 

How much power will Allens car safely make on 92 octane premium gasoline? I'm really interested in the power gain between 92 octane and E85. It looks like its 35+% power gain.

Justin


Modified by Justin Olson at 11:56 AM 12/14/2006

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Kelly. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">good **** tony!

hope to see similar results in early jan for a friends car

and my dyno comment was a joke,
does no one remember the testing me and servion did

anyone know if SFWD cars are allowed to run E85? it is pump gas, but i thought i read that eth wasnt allowed?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I've been told by a couple people that it isn't legal, but I havn't looked into it further. I don't know why it would be illegal if your allowed to run race gas, but hey thats just me. Anyone have more info?

I'm hoping to get tuned on E85 this spring. shooting for 400whp on the stock B16.

 

I just got another car off the dyno. Drag manifold SC34, 85mm ls/vtec. Made 425 at 18psi on 93 octane, made 475whp at 18psi on E85, but fuel pressure was falling pretty bad so i had to shut it down early. Going to add another pump soon and max it out. lol