alright guys i know u probly heard this 1000 times but here it is again sorry. will my stock sleeves stock bore with a block gaurd carry 450whp?

 

Stock sleeve with piston and rod will do 450whp on pump gas all day everyday

 

around what whp ware sleeves absolutly nessisary?

 

yes, you will be fine ...throw some forged pistons and rods in that badboy and get a good tune

id say anything over 500whp is pushing it imo

 

yup i already have the pistons and rods and my hondata i was just wondering cause i want to play it safe.. thanks

 

but what sized pistons do you have?most people that build there block bore it alittle bit over just to make sure all cylinders are perfect...so stock gsr is 81mm bore it to 81.5mm

 

well i got the block off this one guy who threw a rod and ate up the cyclinder, so hey got it resleeved with brand new ones(if it were me i would have went with some darton sleeves but he went with standard) so they are brand new cylinders

 

''Stock sleeve with piston and rod will do 450whp on pump gas all day everyday''

really? 450whp on stock sleeve?not saying its not possible but not likely to hold out ..i cracked 2 blocks 1 went @315whp the other @390whp am sleeving my next block just to be safe...

and on pump fuel? every country has a different grade of fuel as pump fuel..we get 89 some ppl get 93 lucky ppl get 100ron so it depends on where u live..

 

I have been running a stock sleeved/stock internals gsr for a while now @24psi on E85 wich yeilded 498/322

yes it will do the power and hold it man, but you better have a good tuner

 

1. i assume this is a b-series
2. blcokguard is not needed
3. what do you mean by standard? did he use aftermarket sleeves, can you even get replacement oem sleeves? any pics?

what turbo are you running? a small turbo at high psi could create more cylinder pressure making 450whp less safe on stock sleeves. bigger turbo and lower boost would help to reduce pressure on the sleeves.

to the guy that "cracked two blocks" what exactly happened? 315whp should be completely safe on all stock internals, sounds like a tuning problem to me.

 

ya its a b18a1 block, by standard i mean oem replacement, (waste of money if u ask me but he gave it me so i took it). the block guard is already installed. and i am going to be running a TURBONETICS T3/T4 60-1

 

ive been running a stock sleeved b16 with mahle pistons, eagle rods and arp main studs and head studs, for 2yrs no problems. over a 100 runs on the dyno and just as many down the track. still makes 466hp and 313tq and runs mid 10's at 135mph. its all in the TUNE.....

 

im sure you will be fine, crank the boost and have fun

 

thanks guys for the help

 

If they are Darton ductile iron replacement liners (still have alum water jacket around them), they will take quite a bit more than stock. Not exactly 100psi of boost, but more than the stock sleeves, which are brittle grey cast iron. I agree full sleeves would have been a better deal, but there can be more issues associated with them.

The main problems are tuning. An error in timing or fueling will result in damage no matter what components you use. Make sure you have good, clean parts throughout the fuel system, run a good EMS, and get someone with a stellar track record for tuning Hondas.

 

I find that hard to believe. I'm at 328whp with all stock internals and have been for over a year and I'm fine. I have a good tune though, so maybe that's your problem?

 

Oh ya imma tune it on hondata s300. Also hey do u have any idea if golden eagle has those sleeves cause I remeber the guy who gave it to me saying somthing about that to.

 

jeff evan has made over 500 hp on a bone stock gsr more honda block will take the abuse you throw at it . tunning is always the key time and you enemy lol