jmal1919

Looking for opinons for my 02 Accord Ex 4cyl proj.

I want a beast 250+whp daily driver and plan to add:
a custom turbo kit
clutchmasters stage 3 kit w/ lightend flywheel
rods
pistons
port n polished head
larger injectors
VFAC
fuel pump
ngk plugs

Should I add anything else to reach my goal and still have a reliable car? Looking for some tips.

Thanks

Swift

a well tuned engine management system.

liam821

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Blue-Civic-Hybrid

iTrader: (1)

Nice dream you have there..hope it comes true......but a good engine management is key...Hondata comes to mind...

iam7head

hondata=obd1=emission problem =wont pass the smog ****

I Like Boost

340whp reliable daily driver here. hondata is the key, and if you ain't from cali who gives a **** about smog legal anywas.

iam7head

mang, i wish i can do that lol..
a whooping 2000 fix it ticket

liam821

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If you have a turbo in cali..99% of the time its gonna be illegal anyways...so who cares about a obd1 ecu? In cali your going to have to pull off the turbo kit for smog anyways (so put back in your obd2) or get it done illegally and then it wont matter.

liam

jmal1919

I live in MD, but emissions is a problem.


Question, isthe 02 Accord Alarm wired into the ECU? If it is, then I don't want to get rid of my ecu and would have to use a piggy back system. If I do use a piggy back system like the VFAC, is my dream unreal?

fredtoast

No you don't have to have hondata. Hondata is the hot, new, "gotta have it" item here at H-T. From what I have heard it is a great system, but you can have a reliable, safe system without it. You'll have the VAFC to control the fuel. All you will need is something to control the timing. I'm not familiar with turbo timers (I have a supercharger), but just do a little research. This is the best place to find out what you need.

Hondata will give you a few more HP, and if money is no object then go for it, but you can set up a system that will run great without it.

roydogg

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Just find a emmissions place that will pass you for an extra 20 bucks in thier pocket . Here in philly 80 bucks and you'll pass .

turbochic

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Just find a emmissions place that will pass you for an extra 20 bucks in thier pocket . Here in philly 80 bucks and you'll pass .</TD></TR></TABLE>

Boy I wish it only $80 in cali to pass, I have to pay for all three of my modified cars $250 for them to pass.

Snafu-Si

.... what is this emission's testing? What is this smog legal stuff?

Never heard of this ....... at least not in good ole Michigan!

Hell, just about EVERYBODY has a test pipe here.

As for how to make a turbo car realible. know the limits of what your engine can take considering what you are planning for it like the internals you mentioned. Most importantly having a proper fuel delivery setup is key, better injectors, new fuel pump may or maynot be really needed if you are only pushing 250whp. But couldn't hurt, and yes.... a fuel managment unit. As everybody has already mentioned. Hondata, Hondata, and some more Hondata.

Get the sucker tuned well, and you should be okay.. But it's still not goign to be as realible as before. You just have to keep your eyes open a lot more now.

ion_four

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fredtoast &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No you don't have to have hondata. Hondata is the hot, new, "gotta have it" item here at H-T. From what I have heard it is a great system, but you can have a reliable, safe system without it. You'll have the VAFC to control the fuel. All you will need is something to control the timing. I'm not familiar with turbo timers (I have a supercharger), but just do a little research. This is the best place to find out what you need.

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A turbo timer has nothing to do with ignition timing...you would need something like the MSD 6BTM that I have for sale

fredtoast

[QUOTE=ion_four]A turbo timer has nothing to do with ignition timing...[QUOTE]

Oops, sorry about that. I had just assumed that it was something like the Boost Timing Controller. At least I admitted that I wasn't familiar with turbo systems.

jmal1919

So if I don't get a standalone, my goal is not reachable?

Also, how important is the MSD ignition timing?

drvfast

u dont have to use a standalone to reach your goal. most people run the hondata because its one of the best fuel managment systems. if u dont have the money for the hondata run the afc hack with 440's or dsm 450's and you should be fine. tunning is the key

jmal1919

got it.

What does everyone think about turbo cams? are they worth it, or is the stock cam sufficient?


already had plans to get larger injectors and tuning at inlinepro in VA because they are the best in the area.

fredtoast

High lift/duration cams don't make that big of a difference with forced induction. I have an Integra Type-R, some guys actually use the GSR cams in ITR's. GSR cams have LOWER lift and duration than the type-R cams, but they have less overlap. Overlap is the time that the exhaust and intake valves are both open. Overlap can also be adjusted with cam gears instead of replacing the entire cams. I really don't think it makes that big of a difference unless you are into competion racing where every little drop of HP counts.

The ignition timing control is VERY important. If you don't have someway to retard the timing when under boost then you will have to retard your base timing. This will help prevent detonation, but you will be running with less power (retarded timing) when you are not under boost.

tegasaurus

vafc hack isn't all that great... iwas pulling about a 10:1 a/f ratio past 5k... the afc hack wont get you 250whp unless ur at 11 psi (stock map limit).

Just go with hondata s100 w/boost. Its about 400 bucks and has a "btm" and the fuel settings all within it. Tuning REALLY is key for making power... untuned at 10:1 a/f will pull about 150-170whp... tuned at 12.5:1 will get you a nice 220-250whp... all at appx 8psi of course

-ryan

jmal1919

Cool wit the ignition timing.

Does anyone know if the factory alarm for a 02 Accord is wired into the ECU? If so, then my only choice is to get the VAFC.

any other ways to get reliable power?

Thanks for all the info