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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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Ok I have a 96 hatch dx and have at 14b a D series manifold and a dsm sidemount with B.O.V. Used to have a coupe with Greddy kit turbo on it but it got stolen and still want boost but now money is kinda short. What exactly else would I need to make it possible and would it be worth it?

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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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You will need to fabricate a downpipe, intercooler piping, new oil lines, new water lines, vacuum hoses, couplers/hose clamps,HF to 14b adapter plate, larger injectors/something to control them with (cheap-fmu/safc, expensive-s300)..
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Old Aug 19, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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the 14b is water cooled as well correct? where do i connect the water lines to?

sorry to threadjack... you probably have the same question for your build though
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 12:11 AM
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Dont bother with the water its just more lines/places to get a leak.Order a oil line kit from Stealthmode[tunertoys.com carries them] they sell one for the 14B then get a downpipe flange or you might be able to run a stock O2 housing for a DSM depending on clearance etc and if so you will need a flange to match that housing as well as a flex and a flange to bolt up to your exh.From there grab a bunch of mandrel bends and start cutting/mocking them up to fit and if you dont have a welder just get them ready and run down to a exh shop/welding shop and have them welded.You can get adapters for the mani from BMC i think he is still making them
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 12:53 AM
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concerning fuel/eng management i would just get a good base map made then go from there, most base maps will beat a fmu or safc anyday hands down yeah know. Theres alot of good companies out there these days offering those services.
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 06:26 PM
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Wow thanks guys on all the imput ill start making my list and start ordering some parts for my set up.
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 07:10 PM
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ya i had never heard of anybody using the waterlines on a 14b but trashcanrepairman said to get waterlines and i was confused as hell...
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 07:42 PM
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Here's one way to go about the waterlines
http://www.puchare.com/tech/cooling/index.html

Again you don't really have to.Plenty of people dont on dsm turbo's and they run/last fine.
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 07:59 PM
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Wait 14b's are set at a stock pressure of 11psi, how can I bring it down to a safe level? Isn't it interally gated?
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 94c1v1cex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ya i had never heard of anybody using the waterlines on a 14b but trashcanrepairman said to get waterlines and i was confused as hell... </TD></TR></TABLE>

The 14b is a water cooled turbo. It's really easy to connect them. True, you don't HAVE to use them, but by that mentality you don't need them on a GT series turbo either...
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 08:19 PM
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true but i already have a d15b swap in my car and have that t'd coolant line setup on the head... (post pics tomorrow if you don't know what i'm talking about)
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Old Aug 20, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I LOVE TO SPOON &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wait 14b's are set at a stock pressure of 11psi, how can I bring it down to a safe level? Isn't it interally gated?</TD></TR></TABLE>

You can make it externally gated , doing so for a customer right now at the shop.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:11 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RCautoworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

You can make it externally gated , doing so for a customer right now at the shop. </TD></TR></TABLE>

But he has a HF mani, and the way to make that externally gated is with a pretty big flycutter on a mill or a weldor that has lots of experience welding on cast iron.

What you could do is try looking for a different WG actuator. Many people buy a used turbo with a lower psi WG actuator, then use an external gate.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HiProfile &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

But he has a HF mani, and the way to make that externally gated is with a pretty big flycutter on a mill or a weldor that has lots of experience welding on cast iron.</TD></TR></TABLE>

There is away around welding on the cast to make it externally gated.
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 10:02 AM
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Bob(RCautoworks) also sells the oil lines, cant boost controll help you with the 11psi? To what I know its a pretty small turbo wouldnt be some like 7-8psi on a bigger turbo like a T3
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Old Aug 21, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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You should do some reading on HMT on the projects,stickies etc as there is lots of info on using these turbos.They work good for low buck kits on a D16 You can thread the actuator arm to make it adjustable but i would run at least 11psi anyways
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