** The E85 Thread **

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 05-23-2012, 08:14 PM
  #451  
Moderator
iTrader: (14)
 
TheShodan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: City of Wind, IL, USA
Posts: 24,552
Received 234 Likes on 209 Posts
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Originally Posted by airfed_teg
corn smells so much better than regular old gasoline
Until you gotta park it over the winter.. but being from Down south, you have to sweat that now, do ya..?
Old 08-17-2012, 10:40 PM
  #452  
Honda-Tech Member
 
91b18a1ls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 834
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Can you run closed loop with e85? Or will the stock o2 go nuts not being able to recognize it?
Old 08-21-2012, 05:09 AM
  #453  
Honda-Tech Member
 
92NoTeC's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: surrounded by lakes in WI
Posts: 1,087
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

I think as long as you have bigger injectors and your fuel maps are adjusted close via aftermarket engine management or a reflash, the stock o2 will still work. Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I believe the stock narrowband strives for a lambda value of 1, which would be stoich for virtually any fuel you're using.
Old 08-22-2012, 12:16 AM
  #454  
Honda-Tech Member
 
91b18a1ls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 834
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Ok, I'm on rc 550 injectors and tuned on the s300. All my a/f ratios are spot on, but being in open loop it's fluctuates slightly form time to time. Mostly the a/f at idle fluctuates being in open loops
Old 12-08-2012, 07:40 AM
  #455  
Honda-Tech Member
 
95ejjj's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 301
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

My car will be sitting for about 2-3 weeks. It has about half tank of E85 right now. Will I be fine just letting the car idle for a few minutes? Is there anything I need to do to make sure no moisture enters or any other issues I could have? I read a few people are using Sta-Bil for Ethanol or Lucas brand, anyone recommend that?
Old 12-08-2012, 08:17 AM
  #456  
B*a*n*n*e*d
iTrader: (15)
 
turbohatch96y7's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: montebello, ca, us
Posts: 6,632
Likes: 0
Received 15 Likes on 10 Posts
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

My car sat for about a year with the new motor put in it started right up.
Old 04-17-2013, 05:40 PM
  #457  
Honda-Tech Member
 
meadors44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Wanting to run e85 with a f22b2 turbo looking for 350-400 whp. Looking for advice on my fuel system. Right now I'm think 255 walbo stock fuel lines. Wondering if my stock fuel rail will be ok? Or do I need to get an after market one? If so, which one would you suggest and what fuel filters? Also will I need a return line? I have been searching but can't find the answer. Thanks.
Old 04-17-2013, 06:01 PM
  #458  
Honda-Tech Member
iTrader: (1)
 
EJ1_Ex's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: GangLand, MN, USA
Posts: 846
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Originally Posted by meadors44
Wanting to run e85 with a f22b2 turbo looking for 350-400 whp. Looking for advice on my fuel system. Right now I'm think 255 walbo stock fuel lines. Wondering if my stock fuel rail will be ok? Or do I need to get an after market one? If so, which one would you suggest and what fuel filters? Also will I need a return line? I have been searching but can't find the answer. Thanks.
upgrade pump and get at least 1000cc injectors.. everything else will be fine
Old 04-18-2013, 03:34 PM
  #459  
Honda-Tech Member
 
meadors44's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2013
Posts: 2
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

thanks for the help
Old 07-25-2013, 07:52 PM
  #460  
Honda-Tech Member
 
89-efcivic-si's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2013
Posts: 21
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

What kinda of performance or lack there of would e85 give you on a stock motor. Because of the slower burn rate would you lose power?
Old 07-26-2013, 04:40 AM
  #461  
Honda-Tech Member
 
twkdCD595's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 5,551
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Originally Posted by meadors44
Wanting to run e85 with a f22b2 turbo looking for 350-400 whp. Looking for advice on my fuel system. Right now I'm think 255 walbo stock fuel lines. Wondering if my stock fuel rail will be ok? Or do I need to get an after market one? If so, which one would you suggest and what fuel filters? Also will I need a return line? I have been searching but can't find the answer. Thanks.
Walbro 400 and 1000's or better will get you there with some head room.

Something to add you need to do... you HAVE to change from the stock fuel filter. You need to go to a stainless element or e85 compatible synthetic element filter. The stock filter media will break down.
Old 07-26-2013, 05:11 AM
  #462  
Honda-Tech Member
 
LightningTeg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 5,216
Received 18 Likes on 17 Posts
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Originally Posted by twkdCD595
Walbro 400 and 1000's or better will get you there with some head room.

Something to add you need to do... you HAVE to change from the stock fuel filter. You need to go to a stainless element or e85 compatible synthetic element filter. The stock filter media will break down.
Hmm, I've been running the stock filter since I switched last year
Old 07-26-2013, 07:39 AM
  #463  
Honda-Tech Member
 
twkdCD595's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 5,551
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Originally Posted by LightningTeg
Hmm, I've been running the stock filter since I switched last year
Wow that is surprising. I know some have run them supposedly without issues in other applications but never wanted to risk it personally after a good friend had a bad experience.

It was a stock type filter that had break down in what was only a few months. The glue was releasing, all the pleated media inside was wadding up obviously, and the injectors had some nasty goo in them. Fortunately he caught it quick so it did not do any damage (was misfiring like crazy from clogged injector) but the injectors had to be cleaned of course and the lines flushed/ blown out after the filter just to be sure no residue crap in them.

It was right after he changed from gas to e85. He went to a ss element filter and it was fine since then.

ETA: They do make a fiberglass or synthetic blend material filters that are e85 compatible for those that want less micron filter than the 25 micron magnafuel or 40 micron aeromotive ss elements (smallest ss elements I know of).

Last edited by twkdCD595; 07-26-2013 at 07:59 AM.
Old 07-26-2013, 07:44 AM
  #464  
Honda-Tech Member
 
LightningTeg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 5,216
Received 18 Likes on 17 Posts
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

I almost dont want to change it because its working fine. I have a stock replacment filter that I intended to use but If I need stainless then I'll have to look into it.
Old 07-26-2013, 08:10 AM
  #465  
Honda-Tech Member
 
twkdCD595's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 5,551
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Originally Posted by LightningTeg
I almost dont want to change it because its working fine. I have a stock replacment filter that I intended to use but If I need stainless then I'll have to look into it.
Is it an OEM Honda or a stock replacement?

Would be interesting to see it cut open and what you find if anything, if/ when you change.

I would imagine as more ethanol is being put in even standard pump gas in recent history, all fuel filter manufacturers are going to have to consider changes (if they have not been changed already) to make all filters ethanol compatible.
Old 07-26-2013, 08:26 AM
  #466  
Honda-Tech Member
 
LightningTeg's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Indiana
Posts: 5,216
Received 18 Likes on 17 Posts
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

If I had to guess its probably the original honda filter
Old 07-26-2013, 08:42 AM
  #467  
Honda-Tech Member
 
seelback's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Jacksonville, Florida, United States
Posts: 742
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Originally Posted by twkdCD595
Is it an OEM Honda or a stock replacement?

Would be interesting to see it cut open and what you find if anything, if/ when you change.

I would imagine as more ethanol is being put in even standard pump gas in recent history, all fuel filter manufacturers are going to have to consider changes (if they have not been changed already) to make all filters ethanol compatible.
i switched to e85 on my oem internal b20vtec allmotor setup. i ran the e85 for about a week in the old filter then bought a oem honda filter. replaced it and i've been good to go for the past year and a half with no problems. i was using obd2 jdm f20b 310cc injectors when i first switched to e85, i maxxed them out but the afr's were comfortable and the injectors werent failing so i ran them until i could buy another set of injectors. i bought a set of osidetiger 660cc injectors. pulled the f20b injectors out, inspected and they were perfect and clean. put in the osidetiger 660cc injectors, got a retune and good to go. then i bought a set of id2000's(getting ready for boost), pulled out the 660cc's and they were perfect and clean. put in the id2000's and a retune. all of this on a oem honda fuel filter. i will be putting in a e85 compatible fuel filter, when i pull the oem honda fuel filter i will cut it open and take pics and post them in this thread.
Old 07-26-2013, 10:16 AM
  #468  
Honda-Tech Member
 
twkdCD595's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: USA
Posts: 5,551
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Originally Posted by seelback
i switched to e85 on my oem internal b20vtec allmotor setup. i ran the e85 for about a week in the old filter then bought a oem honda filter. replaced it and i've been good to go for the past year and a half with no problems. i was using obd2 jdm f20b 310cc injectors when i first switched to e85, i maxxed them out but the afr's were comfortable and the injectors werent failing so i ran them until i could buy another set of injectors. i bought a set of osidetiger 660cc injectors. pulled the f20b injectors out, inspected and they were perfect and clean. put in the osidetiger 660cc injectors, got a retune and good to go. then i bought a set of id2000's(getting ready for boost), pulled out the 660cc's and they were perfect and clean. put in the id2000's and a retune. all of this on a oem honda fuel filter. i will be putting in a e85 compatible fuel filter, when i pull the oem honda fuel filter i will cut it open and take pics and post them in this thread.


Definately in to see what people find when they cut them open, having seen one coming apart from ethanol it would be interesting to see if others have similar or not.
Old 07-26-2013, 11:03 AM
  #469  
Honda-Tech Member
 
91b18a1ls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Posts: 834
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

I've been on e85 for just over a year and I have never changed the fuel filter. Making me nervous now reading all that lol, but the car runs fine
Old 08-04-2013, 06:14 PM
  #470  
Honda-Tech Member
 
seelback's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Jacksonville, Florida, United States
Posts: 742
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default Re: ** The E85 Thread **

Finally pulled out my oem honda fuel filter, which has about a year and a half to two years of e85 gone through it. I pulled it out cause i replaced it with a -6 e85 filter. I ended up cutting the oem filter open and this is what i found.


I ended up buying a 40 micron e85 -6 fuel filter and a female female -6 union from siliconeintakes.com and a non-flare oem line to -6 male compression fitting from b&r fittings. Super easy to do, quick, and not that expensive.

Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
rumo1112
For Sale
1
10-15-2010 09:45 AM
Thundercat
Southeast
6
02-28-2009 05:02 PM
jdm-teddybear
Other Make Vehicles
3
04-12-2008 03:47 PM
CivicTunR
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
1
12-19-2006 08:50 PM
0ptimus prime
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
4
11-10-2003 12:34 AM



Quick Reply: ** The E85 Thread **



All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:23 PM.