S300 is what like 500+?

Neptune RTP is 400ish and a better tuning solution in terms of features offered and customer service. I don't see how anyone would want to spend more on an inferior product.

this isn't even counting having a Neptune dealer tune the car using a chip license which is much more affordable.

 

There is some bad blood out there regarding Hondata.

 

S300 is back down to $400 retail now. just an FYI , I could care less either way

 

eCtune/Demon on alot of cars i do at the min.

Thinking of starting to use Neptune due to the lack of support at times and also the on-board datalogging on the neptune too!

 

I hope this is not off topic but what do you guys think the best tuning software is for a obd1 b18c with I/H/E?

 

It's definitely not off topic. That is exactly what this thread is about.... take a minute to read it!

Doesn't matter what engine you are tuning, if it's an OBD1 ECU that you are using. Any of the pieces of hardware and software mentioned in this thread will work.

 

Yes but Neptune is the best

 

What did those boys with that pink civic on TV run? Thats what me got

 

Neptune, best support and best software

 

lol i used uberdata for a few years in the mid 2000's. had a couple of 300hp setups on it.

been using neptune ever since and im completely happy. it runs with no issues and customer service is spot on.

 

Neptune RTP for the win. Craig Moates + James = awesome hardware and software. It is really the tuning solution for the MODERN gearhead. If you're new to the honda scene, you'll realize that it's customer service that separates the companies from one another.

 

well it looks like neptune+demon=perfect tuning solution. customer service is the number one priority when it comes to tuning either a 100$ car or a 30,000$ car. neptune is the tuner solution to have. i have ordered my neptune and demon just a few mins ago from hrtuning and cant wait till next weekend to add my turbo to my rebuilt d16z6 as i will soon after that have some fun around virginia. thanks everyone so far and looking to hear more comments from others as i hope this will help all soon to be tuners here in 2012! cheers everyone!!

 

Neptune seems to be the tuner of choice around here....but due to the fact that I'm used to hondata's extremely user friendly software I'm going to be switching from
Crome to s300 to retune my GSR with a 6262. Aiming for 450whp for this summer (currently at 350whp) then this winter I plan on pulling the motor to put some darton or golden eagle sleeves and aim for 600+, wish me luck!

 

I forked out $500 for my hondata s300. It works great, lots of fun to tune with. Some may not like Hondata for whatever reason... But I gotta say im 100% happy with my purchase. Neptune might be slightly cheaper... And is probably just as good. But l feel that Hondata has done way more for the Honda scene than any other engine management company. And this is why I gave them my money. I run it on windows xp.

 

When you sue a head diy developer, **** tends to hit the fan with people who "care"bout the scene

 

I'll have to disagree with this one.... PGMFI.org and those pioneers of the early DIY Honda tuning did a hell of a lot more for the Honda scene than Hondata ever thought of doing. Doesn't matter who was first... PGMFI.org got the information out to the masses and that is why Honda tuning is the way it is today.....

 

my thoughts exactly. i have been in and out for years now tuning and what pgmfi.org has done alone has paved the road for tuning for noobs to the experts. hondata might be good but compared to the response time of neptune support and flexible features they have neptune seems the best. im not saying anyone that bought hondata made a bad buy but if your now choosing a tuning product neptune is it. look at s200 and how they did that. it wasnt but what 2008 they discontinued it??? what will happen to s300??? im thinking in a few years someone will call customer support with a s300 problem and they will say we no longer support s300 upgrade to s400.... good bye.

 

Points taken guys. But... Any business which is in the business of making money will crush its competitors at any given opportunity. Sure, it hurts feelings, but thats just the nature of business. Hondata has developed alot of great products for our cars. Its an american company that does true R&D, and continues to provide us with tools that we can use to tune. I dont see many other companies selling tuning products for modern Honda, and I can assume that Hondata will continue to innovate when the next generation of engines become available. Their products do go for a premium, but im willing to support the fact that developing this stuff costs money and the fact that they need to turn a profit. Where is Neptune's K series system? Can PGMFI.org help me with my s2000? Will Crome be able to support my 2013 civic Si? Does any other ECU seller break top speed records or collaborate with other companies to build competitive racecars? Geez. For 2012, Hondata it is.

 

^i gotta say I agree. We all appreciate the innovation of the DIY developers and the fact that they have all been so helpful for a time with there products. But let's face , the innovation period is over and now that the challenge is gone the Developers are abondoning there products cough CROME cough. Obviously I'm not including Neptune in that statement as there following on H-T alone proves them to be a great tuning choice. But for someone interested in more than b series motors hondata is the obvious choice. I'm coming from owning an 08 si with flashpro, so with my new project a boosted gsr hondata is the way to go because the software is so familiar. The price difference in my mind between s300 and Neptune demon is negligable, what's it end up costing $50-70 more? The way I see it there are only 2 "great" tuning solutions (hondata/Neptune) after trying Crome and deciding it "can get the job done" at best I would never look at another company other than the 2 I listed.

 

Neptune k series is in development.

 

In that case, the price difference between Hondata Flashpro or KPro and a standalone EMS would also be negligible. Therefore, I would choose an AEM, Motech, Haltech or even a Mega Squirt (1/4 the price) EMS.

 

As Ghost Accord said "PGMFI.org and those pioneers of the early DIY Honda tuning did a hell of a lot more for the Honda scene than Hondata ever thought of doing."

Well maybe if people would give other companies a chance instead of blindly following the "big" companies, other people would get more money so they too, can do R&D and make better products. Neptune Tunerview and Neptune Multi-Tune comes to mind. Someone has to stand with the not-so-big guy so he can get bigger. It does not happen without support. Think about it the 171! What industry have you ever seen an old monopoly been beneficial to? The innovative products come from the younger company if given a chance.

*Totally off topic * Remember when most of us used (monopoly microsoft) IE back in the day, who would have thought that chrome would blow ie out of the water?

 

MAN, am I glad I don't use any of those to bicker and hagle around with..

Ahhh.. To sit back and watch..

 

loLlol Shodan. You have some really cool gifs. Really cool. Still rocking the power fc?

 

i wonder if there is future plans with neptune too run a coil on plug setup