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Old 02-02-2011, 09:19 PM
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I searched and couldn't find anything to answer my problem. The dizzy is cranked all the way and the mark on the pulley is close to the indicator but not quite there. My cam gears do line up when TDC. What am I missing here? I have hondata and I go to online>set timing>16*BTDC. Do I still need to jump the service connector? Will an exhaust leak also have an affect?

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Old 02-02-2011, 09:33 PM
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mines turned all the way advanced and my timing is right on the money but I cant advance it if I wanted to.I hope someone has an answer for you so I can fix mine as well.
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if you are really close you could prob. just dremel out the holes a little bit, prob. not the right way but just a suggestion.
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It must be off a tooth to do this...
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Originally Posted by weavertime1
It must be off a tooth to do this...
thats what I think as well,Im going to replace my timing belt and put it on right.
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I HAVE THIS SAME EXACT PROBLEM ON MY DA..MY CAR STARTS FINE AND EVERYTHING AND SOUNDS LIKE IT IDLES FINE BUT WHEN I START TO TAKE OFF BETWEEN 1000RPM AND 3500RPM THERES LACK OF POWER LIKE A MISFIRE OR PREIGNITION.. AND IM WASTING ALOT OF GAS..RUNNING RICH MAYBE????
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Default Re: Cannot rotate dizzy far enough to time car

Originally Posted by usdmsol
if you are really close you could prob. just dremel out the holes a little bit, prob. not the right way but just a suggestion.
I WAS THINKING THE SAME BUT I DONT THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO PLUS IM USING ALOT OF GAS
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are you sure your using the correct mark on the crank??

adjustable cam gears by any chance??
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Default Re: Cannot rotate dizzy far enough to time car

put hondata back to original configuration and jump the connector.

see if that works.

at idle yourecu constantly adjusts timing to get the engine idle smooth.

test connector sets timing constant to default pposition so you can check it and adjust the initial position.
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The cam gears line up guys. Im not dremeling the holes. They're slotted that big for a reason. I cant put hondata back to original, how would my LS/VTEC TURBO start. I'll tell ya- Really ****ing bad or not at all. Mark on the crank pulley-red.
On top Dead center MY cam gears line "up" up and line the 2 notches together in the center.
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Default Re: Cannot rotate dizzy far enough to time car

Originally Posted by StevieR
The cam gears line up guys. Im not dremeling the holes. They're slotted that big for a reason. I cant put hondata back to original, how would my LS/VTEC TURBO start. I'll tell ya- Really ****ing bad or not at all. Mark on the crank pulley-red.
On top Dead center MY cam gears line "up" up and line the 2 notches together in the center.
The white mark on the crank pulley is TDC, not the red mark. The red mark is indicator of 16* BTDC
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I know that. When the car is running, I'm trying to get the indicator to point to the red mark. When the car is off, I can get the engine to TDC, and the cam gears line up
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Default Re: Cannot rotate dizzy far enough to time car

your head and block arent skimmed too much by any chance?
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Are you running of a tune that is for your setup or a base map tune?
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if your head and/or block were decked you need to degree the motor and set aftermarket cam gears to stock degree.
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I am running stock Pr3 camgears. The tune is for this setup. The only thing i changed to have the timing out of sync was the distributor. Before the timing was fine
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Jump the service connector and adjust the ignition timing of the fully warm engine only if it is idling to spec.
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are you using the correct distributor by chance? if you say eveything in the engine lines up then it could be the wrong distro.

It won't be the software that is causing the prob. what kind of timing light are you using?
if it's a dial back timing light then check what timing your getting when distro is set in the middle. If everything in the engine is lined up, including distro, then it should be in the middle.
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Default Re: Cannot rotate dizzy far enough to time car

I've had a problem like this before with a bad crank pulley can give that a shot.
Old 02-18-2011, 02:36 PM
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My timing light does not have individual settings. Also, I just diagnosed another car problem by guessing, and checking. I'd rather not do it here if i can avoid it, seeing as how that costs so much money.
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Default Re: Cannot rotate dizzy far enough to time car

Is it possible the timing belt stretched?
Has this belt had a hard life?
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If you had your block decked and head decked or both, you'll need adustable cam gears and degree your motor properly using a cam degree wheel and dial indicators to get it bang on. You can do this with the motor still in the car, but you'll need someone to do it for you that knows how to do it.
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