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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 05:51 AM
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Default Drifting....?

I understand drifting hasn't "caught on" here in the states yet,but surely there is SOME people that enjoy drifting then?

I was just curious as to wether or not any of you blokes have or have a flat mate who has drifted?

It's wicked good fun,we used to go at Donnington all the time before I moved to Highland Park.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 05:55 AM
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Well... "I" (and my flatmate) like drifting.

BUT there are individuals on the board who will tell you that "drifting" is stupid and not productive.

"The WRC" is a case which shows that drifting is the ideal way to carry speed around a tight turn. But what do they know...

Will
-who awaits the flames....
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 05:57 AM
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There are people that enjoy it here. However, a lot of the people in this forum are concerned with getting around a racetrack in the fastest, most efficient manner, so drifting isn't as much of an interest to them as it is to others.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:03 AM
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Pretty much what they said. It looks fun and I'm sure it takes talent to do it. But doing it on public streets is a disaster waiting to happen. I suppose I could do this on track, but since it's the slowest way to get around a track without actually stopping and driving in reverse, I'll pass. My entry fee is well spent trying to go as fast as possible.


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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:05 AM
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Hmmm... this guys lives in Japan, the UK, Texas, and Florida....

And has a "too fast for you" illegal car in two of his residences...

And has done some major butcher work to a bad handling CRX...

The point of your drifting question is?

Andy
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:08 AM
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It would be unintelligent to drift on a public street,who in the bloody hell does that?!

No mate,we usually go to Donnington in the U.K. and I have tried at Daytona,but they all looked at me like I was bloody baked in the head. I am in Dallas right now in Highland Park and I have been hearing about a track somewhere out in the boonies around here. Anyone heard of it?
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:10 AM
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Hmmm... this guys lives in Japan, the UK, Texas, and Florida....

And has a "too fast for you" illegal car in two of his residences...

And has done some major butcher work to a bad handling CRX...

The point of your drifting question is?

Andy
Your a touchy bloke aren't you? My GTR hasn't made it over just yet,I'm waiting for my cousin to certify the blasted thing,it should be here in about 2-3weeks.

Shows what you know.

And the CRX was a friend of my cousins that I bought for a song mate and it does handle quite horrificly.

Edit:I forgot to clear something up,I was born in Osaka Japan to a Japanese father and a British mother,we moved to Knotting Hill when I was 15. As soon as I turned 21,I moved to the states with my toys,I have a Condo in Florida and a House in Dallas. Feel better now mate?


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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:12 AM
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It would be unintelligent to drift on a public street,who in the bloody hell does that?!
You'd be surprised. 17 year old pimplyfaced kid who just got his license + imported drifting videos from Japan = someone's going into the ditch.

The vast majority of us, when we spend several hundred dollars for a weekend at the track, tend to stick to the more traditional racing methods.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:14 AM
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bloody baked in the head.
blokes have or have a flat mate
It's wicked good fun
I'm starting to like this guy. Good luck on getting your R33 over here... I hope it doesn't cost you a bundle.

And the reason I was a bit touchy was because we've had quite a few stunnas starting threads like this and have proved worthless... Sorry.

Andy

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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:18 AM
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During my high school years in greece we would pick a nice curve and along with 100-200 people we would see all kinds of cars drifting and passing other cars in a 3 lane curve. There was this one dude that had a BMW 316 with a schitzer 2.7 swap. Oh those were the good old days. I know you think it sounds carazy but when you have almost 100% control of your car the only thing that is against you is the old lady who is about to freak out seeing you coming sideways besides her.

And let's not forget the roundabouts in Europe where Rear wheel drive cars can drift continuously around a roundabout for ever!!!!
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:23 AM
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And let's not forget the roundabouts in Europe where Rear wheel drive cars can drift continuously around a roundabout for ever!!!!
There are plenty of circles in DC...I admit to some late night "practice" around a couple of them.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:26 AM
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I graduated in 1992 from the american college of greece in athens..

Around 1989 the car scene was nuts. Afterhours we would get together outside athens in an area called Barkiza and race cars for hours....

Some of the really cool cars where CRXs, fiat uno turbos,BMW, 911, 928, mazerati, benz 190E 2.3 16V (I was driving that ), and many more .........

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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:27 AM
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I'm starting to like this guy.
Me too

He can stay.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:37 AM
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Your a touchy bloke aren't you? My GTR hasn't made it over just yet,I'm waiting for my cousin to certify the blasted thing,it should be here in about 2-3weeks.
I do not believe you have an R33 GTR. Please bring it to northern Virginia so I can drive it at Summit Point Raceway and verify that it is real.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:41 AM
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I graduated in 1992 from the american college

Just curious whether it was post-Colonel.

By nationality, I'm a Hellene. (Among other things, but Hellas is an important part of life, even so many years after leaving.)
That is nice to be proud of your heritage!!!

Do you know hot to speak any greek?

Those that critisize drifting most of the time are people with FWD that just cannot do it. I cannot imagine a person with a skyline ever saying something bad about it. FWD drifting requires extreme knowledge of the traction limits of the car and I have only seen a few people that were not professional drivers that were able to go in a turn with their barkes and drift out with speed.......


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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:44 AM
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I do not believe you have an R33 GTR. Please bring it to northern Virginia so I can drive it at Summit Point Raceway and verify that it is real.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:47 AM
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Those that critisize drifting most of the time are people with FWD that just cannot do it. I cannot imagine a person with a skyline ever saying something bad about it. FWD drifting requires extreme knowledge of the traction limits of the car and I have only seen a few people that were not professional drivers that were able to go in a turn why their barkes and drift out with speed.......
I drive a FWD car and actually like drifting... on a dirt road.

On dry pavement, it's just a waste of tires and time. On anything but dry pavement, it's rather easy to drift a FWD car... it's just incredibly slow.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:52 AM
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Your a touchy bloke aren't you? My GTR hasn't made it over just yet,I'm waiting for my cousin to certify the blasted thing,it should be here in about 2-3weeks.

I do not believe you have an R33 GTR. Please bring it to northern Virginia so I can drive it at Summit Point Raceway and verify that it is real.
He's close to me,I will verify that for you.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:54 AM
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Those that critisize drifting most of the time are people with FWD that just cannot do it. I cannot imagine a person with a skyline ever saying something bad about it. FWD drifting requires extreme knowledge of the traction limits of the car and I have only seen a few people that were not professional drivers that were able to go in a turn with their barkes and drift out with speed.......


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i think no one here will argue that drifting takes skill, but if you are drifting around a corner you are beyond the traction limits of the car and not going the fastest way around the corner, remember optimal traction is gained when the tires are sliding at 5-10 degrees
I used trailbrake by braking into get around turn four at VIR because my Accord pushed hard through the corner, but never drifted on purpose
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 06:59 AM
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Most common FWD drift

1. Enter a turn at a speed too high for the vehicle to handle (if you do not drift, your vehicle should experience understeer at this speed).
2. Heel-Toe Downshift to get your vehicle into a gear low enough to pull you through a drift (2nd gear).

3. Turn your wheels sharply into the turn. By the time you finish downshifting and turning your wheels, you should be at the apex of the turn.

4. Hold in the release button on your E-Brake and pull up your brake sharply, then quickly release (e-brake is held up for only about 1 second). If using a RWD car, clutch in while pulling your E-Brake. If using a FWD car, keep on the throttle while pulling your E-Brake.

5. When you feel the vehicle’s rear end kicking out, immediately countersteer the wheels to face straight with the road. Your vehicle will pull in the direction of the front wheels, as long as the wheels are still moving. Keep on the throttle. If you press the brakes or let off the throttle because your vehicle is in an extremely oversteered condition, you will spin out or leave the road.

6. When you wish to straighten out your car, after completing the drift, let off the throttle smoothly and straighten out the wheels as your vehicle kicks in line behind the front tires.

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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 07:06 AM
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And BTW,call me Drift,I will go with you and know many safe places to do it.

And maybe we can trade cars for a couple of runs?

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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 07:10 AM
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And BTW,call me Drift,I will go with you and know many safe places to do it.

And maybe we can trade cars for a couple of runs?

Email:ra1239@txmail.sbc.com
Sure thing mate,I don't know where anything is around here and it's a bloody big city....

You have mail.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 07:13 AM
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Nah, e-brake is not required. Ssuspension setup, or even LFB is much more reliable.


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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 08:31 AM
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I found e-brake drifting to be useful on gravel turns in a FWD car. The suspension was non-adjustable, but I'm certain that I was quicker when using the e-brake as opposed to trying to induce the rotation through left foot braking alone. At least, I kept up much better with my friend's AWD Legacy wagon while using the e-brake. Ahh, the joys of a rental car... in that case, it wasn't even a rental, it was a loaner while a family car was being fixed.
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Old Jan 31, 2002 | 08:43 AM
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I've never had to use the ebrake or LFB to get my car to 'drift'.
Lift Throttle works quite well for me.
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