I can't speak for the aem, but i can make the motec do everything this can except being time based. I setup my drag cars with a 3d boost map, gear being the vertical axis and rpm being the horizontal. Motec uses a closed loop system as well, so you just tell it the boost you want, not the duty cycle you want.

 

how much is motec


i have NO CLUE what i want to do next year. i should post pictures of my car right now. the way it sits i bet i couldnt sell the car for more than 50 bucks. im stupid haha

 

About 3 times what that boost controller costs, but i'd say it does a fair bit more. lol

 

does it even allow you to keep the factory IACV hooked up?

 

of course

 

so about the same price as the electromotive i have right now + ignition set up of some sort - boost controller.

AEM's a little cheaper + ignition as well + hoping nothing craps out.

does the motec have a honda harness of some sort? have to wire everything with electromotive, takes some time to do it nicely. TEC has an ignition.

i dont really want to run a distributor. or obvoiusly any kind of msd'ish junx. john/james cop with the motec is really nice, clean and maitnance free. ive never used motec, the datalogging is real nice from what ive seen.

electromotive wants me to use their stuff and i have it. im still not real pleased that i never exactly pinpointed what the hell was going on with my car above 630whp last year. it couldnt have been mechanical.

god damnit this is too hard. somebody give me a VAFC

 

nlr peice is nice and very interested

 

up to this point isn't NLR one of the only systems that really offers CO2 control? i thought everyone else that used CO2 was using pressure switches and suck rather than an electric device ot change boost?

i guess i'm wondering, when you go to such a radical boost controller as this, does everyone pretty much use co2 with it to hold boost pressure? or is everyone just wiring it up and due to some reason it can hold boost better than say a AVCR?

 

You can use co2 with any boost controller. The reason this is so good is not that it's co2 capable. It just does a very good job of controlling boost and doing what you want it to.


Joe, you can get an M4 honda kit for about $2600, comes with a harness that plugs into the factory sensors!

 

hmm..... hey tony i just spent 20 min looking for the picture of was it allans car? where you had the cam gear and your bracket and the COP and all that crap....all your threads had red x's now. do you still have any pitures like that?

does that 2600 have the wideband or is that extra

 

Ahh, looks like retarded racing is down or something. They'll pop back up, i haven't taken them down.

The lambda option is an additional $910, and can be added at any time. The base unit comes with 6 hours of lambda, then it turns off. You turn it back on with a password.

 

damn adds up quick. does the harness run from the ecu inside the car, out of the firewall and to the sensors? so you eliminate the OEM under hood harness? do you have to just run aditional wires for your imputs/outputs? how about wiring the COP?

 

It has it's own seperate harness, from the ecu to the sensors. It has plugs that all the aux. inputs and outputs that aren't being used go into. You just plug into those plugs and wire from there. To do individual coils you'll need an ignition expander and a 4 channel ignition box, so that'll add a couple more dollars. You want all the bells and whistles, huh? lol

 

umm i thought i did haha. you can just look at the way the motec harness is set up and tell its far superior to anything out there. i knew it was expensive, but didnt think it was quiet as expensive as it is. sometimes i forget im broke. however my electromotive set up is nearly just as expensive, so i could always sell that?

i just went through so much **** with everything last year that i want to go to the track and race this year. not drive 20 hours make a pass and play figure out what the hell is wrong.

my whole motor situation for next year is looking really well so far. turbo system is in check, minus a turbo right now. i have a collection of spare tranny's going. last thing i want is to smoke up a fresh motor. i have never heard a SINGLE complaint about motec other than the price. but **** a good boost controller is 600-900 bucks anyways. i do think its kind of wack that you have to pay 1000 bucks for a wideband though

 

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Exactly, it's expensive, but you get what you pay for. Especially the $1000 password you buy for the lambda option. lol

 

i thought the 200 dollar "password" from hondata was expensive. especially when i called one time...they took my credit card info...and after that told me they were eating lunch and they would call me back in an hour. i already had the car strapped on the dyno!

whats motec's websight? do they have any screen shots of the software or anything?


nevermind...their web sight wasnt rocket science to figure out haha

 

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dang, think I'll just stick to my non stock IACV powering Autronic then.

hehe, sorry I just had to

seriously though, does anyone know if the NRL is compatible with the clutch switch like the Innovative is?

 

Download the M4 software from the site Joe, it's free. Then you can play with it and look over the options. Download the interpreter as well, that's what you use to look at the logs.

Autolab, there's not an autronic on the car you want the boost controller for, right?

How much is the Autronic wideband?

 

which system is the one to run tony? the m400?

 

For your broke ***? The m4, lol

 

haha cool...i just saw the m4 was the basic model and usually that means it wont work for me hahaha

 

The m400 just has more options, but the m4 will do everything you need it to. Allen and James/John both have the m4. Art's installing an M48 in his car right now, got it used from Pro Drag's car. It's the same as the M4, but with 8 injector drivers so you can do staged injection. You'll be good with the M4.

 

cool thanks man. exploring my options now so we will see how it goes. as much as off season sucks...it sure flys by fast when you think of it in terms of how much money you need to save up haha

 

If you want Motec can make eggs, run the blender, and the toaster all at once.

Staged injection would be the bees knees though.

 

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We run the model A analyzer on our car, its not too much more than the $1000 password you speak of I also believe my dad can beat up yours but I may be wrong ahahahah. j/k tony