getting it broadcast on ESPN2, or SPEED would bring more people out.

 

We ran a TV commercial on Speed for like $300 this summer.

 

there are enough cars that would be competitive in ALL of these classes but they are scattered all over the country and most of the pros arent even using their cars. it was a question of how do you get all of those people in one place? what would that take?
-Roger

 

What would an s2000 fall into to see if this race would have fit for me?

 

in order for this to happen you would have to make the racers make a full unrefundable payment to race. that way guys aren't in, then out, then in again. plus the payout and exposure must be there. I know i would be in.

 

The Etown race in Oct is Huge.. It always is.. Why not start there and get the payouts big for every class and make that race to one to attend...

 

Most of the pro cars are on the other side of the country. E-town is incredible for generating spectator turnout...no doubt. You just can't expect people to drive that far.

LA to Englishtown - 2766 miles

LA to Memphis - 1794 miles
DC to Memphis - 882 miles

LA to Ennis TX - 1565 miles
DC to Ennis TX - 1364 miles

LA to Indy - 2075 miles
DC to Indy - 595 miles

LA to Denver - 1017 miles
DC to Denver - 1691 miles

LA to St. Louis - 1834 miles
DC to St. Louis - 870 miles

LA to Chicago - 2018 miles
DC to Chicago - 704 miles

LA to Topeka - 1517 miles
DC to Topeka - 1141 miles

LA to Vegas - 270 miles
DC to Vegas - 2436 miles

LA to Tulsa - 1436 miles
DC to Tulsa - 1267 miles

 

it would take them having the time, money and the want to do so.

maybe alot of guys dont have one or more of these anylonger?

maybe they have moved onto new things in their lives?

gotta get new guys into the sport to continue what we had going 10 years ago.....and that wont happen w/ the current cost to compete.

i still feel the big dogs need to fill the old pro's shoes and open up the street classes for the new blood this sport needs to live and breath again

 

You are exactly right, but most people still want to race. I think this is why one big race could be successful as opposed to a series.

 

Yes this race is one of the better drag races I have ever attended in my life. Guys who could care less about a fast FWD car even like this race. Its good competition because you got cars that can carry the front wheels on out there, run amazing times, pull out on the FWD cars, but in the end its good racing......People love good racing, bottom line. Only problem with it is, A few years ago I could have competed and actually could have qualified for a class. Now there is no chance that I could do anything other than bracket race or maybe run a few grudge runs or something. I can do that all day at closer tracks to me. People might say you need to step your game up and get your car in shape to run with the faster guys. ALOT EASIER SAID THAN DONE

I do not see plenty of events where I could compete and do anything much anymore.

No one has any money, or people are just tired of running a FWD car. I am not going to lie, I do not get pumped up to go to an Import race anymore, not like I did 8 years ago or more. You see these cars that a lot of guys are racing and you see them go fast and yeah they are supposed to be a full street car, but they arent. At one point and time an 11 second Honda was cool. Now if your supposed street car does not run 9's who really cares?

I get more pumped up when I see someone post up that they went low 11's or dipped into the 10's on a bone stock engine than I do to see someone post up they just went 8's or 9's.

Randy, you and I know do not know each other at all, but we have the same mindset. I read your posts about getting classes together to get the average guy to come run heads up. Im all about it.........

I will not race or even bring my car to a race where I would have to run brackets. Bracket racing is just not fun to me and sometimes you could run 15 times a day and still loose your class.


Yet again, Randy is correct here. I have been around and into our type of cars for a long time now, as with other people. Some of us just can not really evolve because of other things in life that take up time and money. We still love heads up racing and a lot of us still have a little car that we mess with, but its just not in our best interests to spend the time and money necessary to try to really compete.

I would love to get into a class where I could run with other cars heads up on my car. Run some 10's and 11's all day and be competitive. That is also easier said than done. Thats why I will just stick to test n tunes, or maybe a few grudge runs at the small 1/8th mile tracks around where I live. Unless something else arose where I could really compete at an import event.

 

In my opinion this is the only place to do it.

With the fan base that that northeast events bring you cant go wrong.

 

Over 2500 miles for 70+% of the pro cars is the problem. Everyone help me fill out that list of drivers. East cost has the street cars ALL covered

 

i think the local east coast events should set up some pro classes.

maybe it would encourage some of the big dogs from the street classes to step up.

then the rules could be tightened up in the street classes to make them more affordable and a little more easy to compete in.

this way we fill the pro and street classes and get new blood in the sport all at the same time

 

Why not have a race in the middle of the US? Dallas or Houston?

 

70% of pro cars? The east coast in my opinion has the most pro cars of all..
Maybe not the most pro fwd cars but everything else the east coast has ton's...

The problem is will there be the fan base anywhere else?? What good is a race with no fans to watch it? How will anyone profit from that race? Where will the big payouts come from?
How would any sponsers what to be a part of a race where no one show's up to watch?

Etown is a sure thing.. I'm with miller.. Etown is the best place and probably the only place to setup something like this up.. Just make it for more classes..

I would rather see a packed profitable event then an easy one to get to but with no one there to watch...

A profitable event can pay racers to race and this way everyone could be a part of it...

 

i agree, w/o a great fanbase the event would be no good, doesnt matter how many racers show up.

i also think instead of trying to add another large event to the schedule, we should try to add some more classes to the already large events such as the outlaw race and WCF.

these events have already proven to be very successfull and opening them up to even more cars would only help things

is there a pro allmotor class at Etown fall nats/outlaw race?

 

I'm with him on this topic. The S2000 is becoming popular and once mine is complete I plan on attending every event possible big or small.

 

young people are not like the old school guys nowadays (muscle guys).
thier all young punks & live at home with thier parents. youth today is immature still at the age 28 in alot of cases. & its getting worse.
its the damn myspace , texting ," twitter????" all this crap is messing up youth.
30years from now we are screwed.
but only time will tell.

got 2 cars for the list.
1 outlaw
1 mod.

also middle U.S. would not be a bad thing

 

As stated before, to start out it has to be somewhere on either coast. 20 more cars in the middle won't do anything for us if the stands are empty.

Look at Indy in 07, you had all the top contenders and an awesome field...with 100 people in the stands lol Some show that was.

The other problem def lies within the class structure, it has to be set by a group of people that are 'apointed' so to speak and thats THAT. None of this 'Well my car is this, or my car has chrome wheels so give me a weight break' as I see all too much. We as a group are WAY too ME ME ME to do this sort of thing, we're all pretty much guilty to some extent but it gives a bad connotation for event like this when it would be such a pain.

I vote to expand upon what's already there, and during that first week of October I know I don't plan to be anywhere but good ole' dirty Jersey

 

If I recall, Indy 07 had more spectators actually through the gate than any race all season. The problem was that none of them knew there was a race going on. They were all at the car show/vendor side drinking beer and looking at *****.

 

I agree with E-town being the best place for fan base no doubt. As for all the pro cars being on the east coast? Maybe Modified?? Norris is the only pro all motor car I think, all other are Cali cars. Pro FWD and Hot Rod? Probably more in Cali than all other states combined. I could be wrong there are lots of HR cars in the east. I think it is only fair to give everyone a shot. It can't be like other events that are going on right now, because they aren't getting it done. Steve M. tried to get an east coast HR class going...where is that?

Keep the thoughts coming they are all good. What we need mostly is for the quiet pros who just read to simply chime in and say "hey I'd be interested"

 

Hey, I'd be interested.

 

Disagree. There are a good number of pro cars in the east, but the latest active racers were from mostly Texas and west of that. At least in the HR and AM class, where most of the Hondas were in SC racing.


Like Mr. IFO mentioned, its all not about a NATIONAL "1" race event anymore. Success these days rely on local events. You're not going to get people to travel 1500miles to race when its already hard enough to get people to race in events that are short distance.
Of 200 racers that attend a local event in a major area, only about 3-5 will possibly take the trek to a race in the middle of the country. With only that small percentage of racers willing to travel, its going to be tough to get even 50 racers to make it to this National event.

Focus on the local stuff and local racers, Have to start at the bottom before you start making changes at the top.

 

Luke is right... Indy had very good turnstile attendance, the stands just didnt reflect that fact

You guys have very short memories.... Texas has traditionally been a very poor in attendance for sport compact events

If a race like this was to occur, it would have to be in venues that have traditionally had good attendance for sport compact events. I.E. MOROSO , Englishtown, Atco, Bristol, MIR, Vegas, Fontana
Just my .02

 

I'm a newbie to this, do you guys just trailor the car there or do you ship it?