what should i do for egnine management for my 89 crx si with a b20vtec setup? zdyne, hondata, AEM, dfi, or stock ecu with a vtec controller. money isnt really and issue. but i just wanna know what my options are and what is the best?

 

Autronic or a Motec unit if you want the best...

 

Money is definitely an issue. If it really isn't and you want the best
Get yourself a magneti marelli ECU.

Now lets get back to reality.

for an all motor car get yourself the hondata. If your boosting get the AEM, Autronic, or Motec

 

its all motor. so you think hondata then?

 

ok another question which system would i get from hondata? they dont have the s200 on obd-0 should i convert from obd0 to obd1?

 

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Get yourself a magneti marelli ECU.

Now lets get back to reality.

for an all motor car get yourself the hondata. If your boosting get the AEM, Autronic, or Motec</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, or a Bosch unit...and make it sense boost.

 

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Yes, do that.

 

Id go with the new plug n play Motec M4 kit or Autronic. 2249.75 for the motec unit.-pdang

 

Money being an issue or not, nothing runs like an Autronic...........anybody who wants to argue that point, just stop by your local drag strip when the Laskeys are in town and listen to their car on the two step rev limiter........it's so clean its almost musical..........lets see any other ecu do that!

 

how much does one of those bad boys run?

 

Im not gonna argue. AUTRONIC IS THE ****. I love my SM2. I just got done installing an SMC on my friends vw and that car runs mint. Autronic is the best kept secret of ECU's Period.

But i still think magneti marelli is in their own league. Im a big fan of formula 1 and ferrari. And they got there **** together no doubt about it. i know im a little biased towards italian products... BUT their the best hands down... LOL...

 

If money wasn't an issue, most of us wouldnt be building Hondas.

Autronic, if you don't mind wiring...

Hondata\AEM if you do...

Suprdave

 

wow you guys are really getting over my head. lol. anyone know how to tune here in IL

 

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Being from Texas, I am not sure how far you are from Michigan, but I know of a great tuner there.

 

Great tuner for Autronic in MI? I hope to be a future great midwest tuner of Autronic...with Ben's help.

Suprdave

 

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Sorry, I wasn't paying much attention to detail...he knows AEM real well, he's a trainer in their course.

 

Tom Payn?

 

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Actually Ben, have you payed attention to our car on the two step? Same deal, no popping and banging bullshit! Obviously you know alot more that i do about fuel injection so i'm not even gonna try, but I'll put motec right up there or above autronic

 

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Actually Ben, have you payed attention to our car on the two step? Same deal, no popping and banging bullshit! Obviously you know alot more that i do about fuel injection so i'm not even gonna try, but I'll put motec right up there or above autronic </TD></TR></TABLE>

When Kenny and I were on the line at nopi, I sat on the 2step for ever. People I guess were all scared that we were hurting stuff. Car runs fine like that for us and it seems like we can sit on it forever. Some of those cars that shoot ducks...you know that cant be good.

 

Yeah, i'm sure it's the same thing on both the autronic and motec. I think it's called a randomizer? If our two step is set at, say 7500, it'll go between 7250 and 7750 back and forth randomly cutting cylinders so you don't hurt anything. It's cool and all, but the popping and shooting flames is kinda cool sometimes too

 

Haha...I know, I kinda like the poping noise too. Its funny cause back in the day you knew the bad *** cars at the line by that noise. Its funny too that if your messing with it in the pits, you will draw a croud around you to watch.

 

are you guys running external 2 step units such as msd box's or does the aultronic and motec units have the feature Built into them?? Im thinking about ordering one from dynospeed

 

They are built into the engine mgt. themselfs...it actually controls the rev limiter and changes the fuel ign. map to create boost.

http://www.dynospeed.com gets a from me

 

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Actually Ben, have you payed attention to our car on the two step? Same deal, no popping and banging bullshit! Obviously you know alot more that i do about fuel injection so i'm not even gonna try, but I'll put motec right up there or above autronic </TD></TR></TABLE>

Hi Tony,
I'll give you a little slack on this one...your car does sound nice!

Although the Autronic does the job a bit differently than the Motec Randomiser........if you put the two cars next to each other, you'll notice that hey do sound different.............both sound good, but they are definately distinct.

The Autronic uses a combination of methods which can be user selectable to define exactly how to maintain the engine at a given RPM.
Basically there are four seperate methods that can be used individually or together to arrive at the desired combination.......you have:
Fuel cut HARD
Fuel cut SOFT
IGN cut HARD
IGN cut SOFT
which ones I use and in what combination depends on whether the car is Turbo, N/A or supercharged, or even Nitrous.

I do like the Motec systems, and now that they have some windows software available like the Autronic stuff we should see a pretty good rivalry! hehe
After all, the best part about racing is the competition, right?

-Ben

 

Are you experienced in tuning, do you have a good tuner close by?