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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 07:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DIRep972 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Obviously you need traction to gain mph. Which is why spinning will really only gain mph for you if you spin in the first 100' of the track. The first 100' barely effect's your mph but hugely effect's your ET.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 08:02 AM
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I officially think ive seen it all with this post...

BTW, DiRep is a timeslip *****...
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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 02:47 PM
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Seems everyone is forgetting about the basis of movment which is torque, with the lower torque, most fwds have to spin off the line to get the engine in the peak tourque range wich allows the tire speeds to increase but ground speed stays low, once the tires hook up the car accelerates quicker but with a lower et due to the time lost while it was spinning. My .02

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Old Nov 13, 2004 | 03:23 PM
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the less traction you have the higher your trap speed will be.... it gives you more time to get speed up
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 08:15 AM
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he wasnt talking about 98 in the 1/4 . thats his 1/8 mph.
just clearing that up
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 08:48 AM
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Yes, thank you. I meant 1/8th.
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 04:50 PM
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Its not that your speed goes up ,your e.t. goes up.Your 1/4 mile speed will be close to what it always is, but your e.t. will be higher from the tires spinning.
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 06:10 PM
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yeah sorry I ment et will go up, my cars will run about the same et but the mph is about 20-30 lower than the lower torque fwds
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 07:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by park83rsx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the less traction you have the higher your trap speed will be.... it gives you more time to get speed up </TD></TR></TABLE>

you wrong...speed = time/distance
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 07:23 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DIRep972 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heres my take on the subject. Lets forget about traction for a second. Just think of your engine accelerating in terms of rpm's over time. Assuming power stays the same, the amount of time it takes for the engine to accelerate from 1k rpm-9k rpm should always be the same. The more traction you have the quicker you go down the track. (less time to accelerate.) The less traction you have the slower you go down the track. (more time to accelerate.)

Obviously you need traction to gain mph. Which is why spinning will really only gain mph for you if you spin in the first 100' of the track. The first 100' barely effect's your mph but hugely effect's your ET.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 07:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DIRep972 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Heres my take on the subject. Lets forget about traction for a second. Just think of your engine accelerating in terms of rpm's over time. Assuming power stays the same, the amount of time it takes for the engine to accelerate from 1k rpm-9k rpm should always be the same. The more traction you have the quicker you go down the track. (less time to accelerate.) The less traction you have the slower you go down the track. (more time to accelerate.)

Obviously you need traction to gain mph. Which is why spinning will really only gain mph for you if you spin in the first 100' of the track. The first 100' barely effect's your mph but hugely effect's your ET.</TD></TR></TABLE>
What do you mean more time ?You have A 1/4 of a mile.What does time have to do with it.You have from point A to point B.The sooner you get there the faster you will be going.If you loose traction,your not going to go faster it will just take you longer.
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 08:36 PM
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That is what he and all of us are saying...
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 09:02 PM
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What was said was ,If you spin the tires you go faster.Anyway I think everybody gets it
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 09:10 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RMF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
What do you mean more time ?You have A 1/4 of a mile.What does time have to do with it.You have from point A to point B.The sooner you get there the faster you will be going.If you loose traction,your not going to go faster it will just take you longer.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats the wrong way of wording it, "gaining mph". I shouldnt have said that. You just get back mph that was already there, that you would have lost if you hooked off the line harder. The harder you launch, the less time and distance you give your engine to accelerate down the track.



Modified by DIRep972 at 5:06 AM 11/15/2004
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Old Nov 14, 2004 | 09:13 PM
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This is a good post and you know what you are all right. Their is sooooooooo many factors here, this post can go for years. to all of you.

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