Bisimoto's 1004hp 2012 Civic Coupe
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Re: Bisimoto's 1004hp 2012 Civic Coupe
As long as the guy is minting money and people continue to buy his ****. He has no reason to race or come out.
I dont care who has the fastest car, who makes the most BHP, who copied who. Bisi is a business man first. A tune next.
No good business man tries to blame his staff. He has tried to pass the buck saying his previous staff where to blame.
Next when he sold a **** load of cams with bad sub standard cores. Which pitted, ate rockers, wore out flat. What did he do when repeat customers like me brought up the subject ?. What where we told ?
You can have a 50$ discount on your next cam purchase.
We got called scam artists. We where told your a bunch of idiots who dont know how to install a cam.
If you put your name to a product then at the very least be man enough to return a customers money and take your product back. When you goof up.
My shrine to Bisi and his products.
https://picasaweb.google.com/1090477...93608/BisiCams
One Level X cam. Which arrived in two pieces. Best offer from bisi 50$ off your next cam purchase.
One Turbo 2.4 cam that ruined my valve train thanks to pitting in under a month. 50$ off your replacement cam.
Both cams where purchased with his Valve train package. (Dont waste your money get the isky springs).
It was Bisi who motivated me to be the engine designer and builder of the car that won this years Nationals at the super saloon races in my country.
And we did it without a single Bisi Product.
People need to stop buying his products. That is the only way you will see him at the track.
I dont care who has the fastest car, who makes the most BHP, who copied who. Bisi is a business man first. A tune next.
No good business man tries to blame his staff. He has tried to pass the buck saying his previous staff where to blame.
Next when he sold a **** load of cams with bad sub standard cores. Which pitted, ate rockers, wore out flat. What did he do when repeat customers like me brought up the subject ?. What where we told ?
You can have a 50$ discount on your next cam purchase.
We got called scam artists. We where told your a bunch of idiots who dont know how to install a cam.
If you put your name to a product then at the very least be man enough to return a customers money and take your product back. When you goof up.
My shrine to Bisi and his products.
https://picasaweb.google.com/1090477...93608/BisiCams
One Level X cam. Which arrived in two pieces. Best offer from bisi 50$ off your next cam purchase.
One Turbo 2.4 cam that ruined my valve train thanks to pitting in under a month. 50$ off your replacement cam.
Both cams where purchased with his Valve train package. (Dont waste your money get the isky springs).
It was Bisi who motivated me to be the engine designer and builder of the car that won this years Nationals at the super saloon races in my country.
And we did it without a single Bisi Product.
People need to stop buying his products. That is the only way you will see him at the track.
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So its ok for skunk2 to have cams made in china but not bisi?
I couldn;t care less who has what time or how much power, but i am curious as to how all these people are raggign against Bisi for this kind of action ubt then they leave out other companies who do the same?
I read on his site(as well as a multitufe of others) how Skunk2 has stuff designed and made by others then they claim them as their own, how come this isnt brought to light? If you are going to out a company due to thigns like this then shouldnt you be fair and otu the other companies also?
I do know for fact that i bought a set of BISI cam gears, i bought them solely for comparision and they weighed a significant more than the AEM TRU time gears I am using, which wieghed more than the Junk2 camgears.
I also know that i bought a bisis header and it didnt fit, the down tube sectionw as all wrong, i still nee dto get it fixed but thats my own bad as i mailed it away to wrong address and it took 6 months to get it back to me.
I also, know that i have a set of Junk2 valves that Chrsi from skunk2 sent me, they are nitride caoted and were suppose to be awesome, however i took the to machin shop and we randomly picked three out of the pack and the runout was far to much and now they are sittign collecting dust.
I would love to see Miller, race Bisi, it would be great but i would also liek to see Junk2 and thier philipino/chinese made garbage at the line with the other two as well.
I would buy a plane ticket and fly form canada anywher is usa to watch that race, let me knwo when it happens an di will book the ticket, be sure to provide location.
One last thing, this east coasrt west coast bullshit has to stop, its not good for anyone. Look waht happend to Biggie and Tupac, that **** killed em both.
I couldn;t care less who has what time or how much power, but i am curious as to how all these people are raggign against Bisi for this kind of action ubt then they leave out other companies who do the same?
I read on his site(as well as a multitufe of others) how Skunk2 has stuff designed and made by others then they claim them as their own, how come this isnt brought to light? If you are going to out a company due to thigns like this then shouldnt you be fair and otu the other companies also?
I do know for fact that i bought a set of BISI cam gears, i bought them solely for comparision and they weighed a significant more than the AEM TRU time gears I am using, which wieghed more than the Junk2 camgears.
I also know that i bought a bisis header and it didnt fit, the down tube sectionw as all wrong, i still nee dto get it fixed but thats my own bad as i mailed it away to wrong address and it took 6 months to get it back to me.
I also, know that i have a set of Junk2 valves that Chrsi from skunk2 sent me, they are nitride caoted and were suppose to be awesome, however i took the to machin shop and we randomly picked three out of the pack and the runout was far to much and now they are sittign collecting dust.
I would love to see Miller, race Bisi, it would be great but i would also liek to see Junk2 and thier philipino/chinese made garbage at the line with the other two as well.
I would buy a plane ticket and fly form canada anywher is usa to watch that race, let me knwo when it happens an di will book the ticket, be sure to provide location.
One last thing, this east coasrt west coast bullshit has to stop, its not good for anyone. Look waht happend to Biggie and Tupac, that **** killed em both.
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Re: Bisimoto's 1004hp 2012 Civic Coupe
Are you serious about the skunk thing? They got ragged on so hard and exposed by people they sued the owner of k20a.org and 2 moderators lol. They posted here also. One of the biggest ownings of a company I've seen.
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^Yes i read all about that, here and on K20 forums. 7
All im sayign is that there are more companies who do this kidn of thing so why focus on jsut the one? Thats all.
BTW who won that lawsuit? i have never heard anythign of it, except junk2 was pissed and sued, no mention of what the court verdict was.
All im sayign is that there are more companies who do this kidn of thing so why focus on jsut the one? Thats all.
BTW who won that lawsuit? i have never heard anythign of it, except junk2 was pissed and sued, no mention of what the court verdict was.
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^Yes i read all about that, here and on K20 forums. 7
All im sayign is that there are more companies who do this kidn of thing so why focus on jsut the one? Thats all.
BTW who won that lawsuit? i have never heard anythign of it, except junk2 was pissed and sued, no mention of what the court verdict was.
All im sayign is that there are more companies who do this kidn of thing so why focus on jsut the one? Thats all.
BTW who won that lawsuit? i have never heard anythign of it, except junk2 was pissed and sued, no mention of what the court verdict was.
it was settled and nikos seems to be happy about it. the terms we will never know.
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I relate the two companies as they both import thier stuff form china and the philipines, they both stamp stuff made in america when it is not, they both tout thier **** as beign the best when it is not, they both claim to do in house research on products they havnt researched...need i go on? You could switch Bisi name with Junk2 and the converstaion rings the same tune....thats all i was saying.
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Yea, I am buy far not a skunk2 nutswinger, but their cams are solid and everything else seems decent as well. I have tuned tons of cars with S2 cams and they all made good power. 5y/o Chinese kids making them or not, you can't argue with speed factory's results.
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Bringing up Skunk2 to relieve the pressure from Bisi, and comparing racing to wannabe gang banger rap artists? LOL. WTF?
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From my point of view Bisimoto is an idiot.
I believe that he can not buildt reliable cars and I do not trust his hp numbers.
Maybe he is a good business man but I believe that he canīt buildt good race cars.
For example:
He advertised his 700+ HP D-series Civic everywhere but noone saw that car race hard.
How can it be that the manifold still looked polished and was still without colors when it "made" 700hp? :-)
On every car that I buildt the manifold gets colors after the first minutes...
I asked these questions somewhere but he never answerd.
I donīt believe a word from his mouth.
I believe that he can not buildt reliable cars and I do not trust his hp numbers.
Maybe he is a good business man but I believe that he canīt buildt good race cars.
For example:
He advertised his 700+ HP D-series Civic everywhere but noone saw that car race hard.
How can it be that the manifold still looked polished and was still without colors when it "made" 700hp? :-)
On every car that I buildt the manifold gets colors after the first minutes...
I asked these questions somewhere but he never answerd.
I donīt believe a word from his mouth.