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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 04:18 PM
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i have a teg with built gsr pt76-76 pump gas. holding boost at 14 psi.
we can get a half good tune in 3rd gear where air fuel doesnt go above 12.7
fuel pressure holds at 70psi.
the problem is when we run 1st or 2nd the car goes super rich & if we ltake fuel out then 3rd will be lean as hell. so has any of u tuner guys had this problem & what was done to solve it or what not. we are also getting the same boost in all 3 gears. & when i say rich its goin down around low 10.0-9.8afr.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 05:05 PM
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is it spinning the tires in 1st and 2nd?
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 05:14 PM
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not enough load on the motor like tony said its spinning
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 05:22 PM
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what ems?
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 05:24 PM
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You have a datalog?
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 07:03 PM
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Default Re: big tuning problem!! (bdavis)

no spining its just going rich as hell. the power curve doesnt have a big belly in it from spining.

i am tuning with aem.

i am tunning with 1000cc rc,s but we think they might have sent us low independince injecors. we just put some evo stock 550cc is the car but it got to late we will pick back up momorrow morning.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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I don't think I've seen RC 1000's in anything but low impedance..
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALL IMPORT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
i am tuning with aem.

</TD></TR></TABLE> I found the problem.
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Old Aug 15, 2006 | 10:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uglyasscivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I found the problem. </TD></TR></TABLE>

hey hey! play nice!

as for the question, if your running "boost comp" style map, check your boost fuel correct table to make sure it is scaled correctly, ive seen way way way too many cals with that table totally fucked up

also make sure your map sensor is probably calibrated, ie. using the correct wizard

also, check the imp of those injectors, if they are low imp and your not running a injector driver or resistor pack, you risk damaging the ems
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 03:28 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ALL IMPORT &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

i am tunning with 1000cc rc,s but we think they might have sent us low independince injecors. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You need resistor box for RC 1000cc injectors.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 09:03 AM
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Default Re: big tuning problem!! (AkumaY)

im also using aem 3.5 bar map sensore
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 09:18 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by uglyasscivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> I found the problem. </TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 09:33 AM
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Hey now Cort, be nice... Almost Engine Management is cool!

On a more serious note, as everyone else has said, I'd check the impedance of the injectors, then if you still have problems report back!
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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Rc does not make saturated 1000 cc injectors. You will need to run a rezistor box or you run the chance or burning the ecu.

You can also look and see how much boost you have in 1st and 2nd gear and see if it too rich at that boost. Then do a 3rd gear pull and compare the boost amount.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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I THINK RC MAKES HIGH IMPEDANCE INJECTORS UPTO 750cc AFTER THAT YOU NEED A RESISTOR BOX.
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 11:15 AM
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i would think that the ECU would have fried within a few seconds/a minute of running on the wrong impedance injectors
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DOHCvtecDX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i would think that the ECU would have fried within a few seconds/a minute of running on the wrong impedance injectors</TD></TR></TABLE>

the ems will run em, but the drivers go into thermal shutdown...do that enough and u start killin the transistor/driver
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Old Aug 16, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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well the 550 i have i think are low imped also. but i have a friend comming as i typ with a resisitor box . so we will put the 1000cc back in & go from thier.

everything seems to be fine with all electronics so we are good thier. we were just trying
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Old Aug 17, 2006 | 01:01 PM
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aem injector driver......i had to buy one also....im runnin 1600cc RC's....
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Old Aug 18, 2006 | 03:51 AM
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ya i got some ugly thing on their right now. so aem selld the resistor box thats awsome im thier

cars running great we got 400whp at 18psi with pump gas s owe are happy

with out the box when we tried fixing afr it seems to go opposite of what we wanted.
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