whats the cost for materials when doing fiberglass?

 

depends on the size of the enclousure and what products you use. if you want cheap fiberglass stuff go to http://www.shopmaninc.com

caraudiophile - - - what are those floating jl amps attached to (whats holdin em up)? Also, are they mounted on plexi or is that a neon tube thats bent around them? I had a similiar vision for my prelude

 

i was thinking of a spare tire enclousure but i need 2 cubes of air space :/

 

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That green stuff...it's 3M tape. When you glass, it's best to use tape that is not too tacky. When resin "goes" it heats up....all of that heat during the cure process will tend to turn all of that tacky substance to something the consistancy of snot. So, the green masking tape will come up easier from the car then let's say duct tape. If you don't have an air compressor to help, or you didn't apply PVA to the mold, then it's going to be tough to pull out. The less tape you use, the easier it will be to get up...that's why foil molds can work so well some times.

As for getting it in and out...it's no wider then your spare tire well...it shouldcome right out of the trunk. But then again, that's why all good installers spend 80% planning and 20% labor

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You are correct.. Explained it perfectly. Fiberglass parts to make the box is really not that exspensive. ITs the 50 or so Hours of Sanding that cost a ton.

 

Generally, the cost to do your first fiberglass part is about 100 - depending on the size and complexity and what tools you buy. Keep in mind that resin is going to drive the price of the part - fabric is fairly cheap. Also remember that shipping resin is EXPENSIVE.

CarAudiophile: If I'm not mistaken, you streched the fleece then glassed on top of it for that part? If so, why didn't you kee the mold and the top separate, then after you pulled the initial fleece and let it cure, you could have flipped it over, then glassed it from the back side, should have saved you a lot of sanding - comments? Just wondering b/c that's how I would have done it - but when 'glassing there's always a ton of different techniques, and I'm always looking for a different perspective.

 

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There's no reason why you can't do an enclosure that is this size. Your typical Civic/Integra has about 1.5 cubes in the spare well. To get the additional size, you can build up the height of the trunk floor...there's a lot of volume there to be had.

 

Are you talking about the Neon or the Civic.

The Neon was done by a different installer at another Location of ours (We have 3 Stores in Nebraska) So I can't comment on how he set that up.

On the Civic we made 5 different pieces the worked on the pieces each on their own and glassed the inside at outside then when all pieces were sanded down the we Fused all those pieces together.

But on the Neon on was not in on that install.. I will see if the guy that owned (He Sold It) that car has time to get on here and explain more on his own car. But I was in on the Civic not the Neon.

Here is some pics on how we constructed the Civic's Trunk.. Sorry for the Multiple Picutres but I have a HUGE server so I put everything on line..

Here ya go:









Or ya can Just Go Nuts Like our 90 Hatch and Wall the Bad Boy Up






Modified by CarAudiophile at 8:29 PM 11/14/2003

 

nah...no need to go over the install in the neon - I could always look it up at carsound.com

It seems like you guys are doing a lot of work post-stretch to get additional shapes. Looks like a TON of grinding and sanding on that dynaglass (what it appears to be) to get the shapes you want.

 

Yeah we like the extreme curves and real nice changes is direction.. If we do it we want people to say WTF?.. We like the major curves because they look Badass and they are difficult to sand but we always take up the challenge to make it look better than the next guy.

 

I just love the way the glass looks when its done...I'd love to just do a simple glass project to hold my amps

only question.....what options are there...if any for doing a trunk where you can still have access to a spare. I was thinking of putting my amps on the sides of the trunk...though if I did this I dont think I would bother with a glass project

 

The sky's the limit with 'glass...essentially it's up to your imagination....

I've done amps on the sides of the trunk before, it's just some simple MDF, but you can make it as wild as you want, it's up to you.

Remember - when at all possible use wood, otherwise, glass it..and once you start building things out of fiberglass, you will never go back to simple wood and carpet.

 

 

I was referring to the neon

 

very nice thread and it is very informative. where am i able to pick up some fiber glass, resin and that fleece fabric. thanks

 

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Well since I started this thread I figure I would chime in here. You can buy fiberglass resin from Home Depot. And you can get fleece from any fabric store, I chose wal-mart.

 

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Fleece you get at your local fabric store - I recommend the cheapest and ugliest fabric available.

shopmaninc.com or tapplastic.com are both good places for resin and mat/cloth.

If you guys want to save a lot of time, I highly suggest you pick up some knytex. It builds up quick like chop mat, but it's very strong. I love the stuff.

Remember when choosing your resin you have two options. Laminating resin and finishing resin. Finishing resin contains a wax agent in it that will rise to the surface during the cure. This keeps the part from being tacky when it cures. This is going to impede the adhesion of subsequent layers. So if you get finishing resin, you have to sand between layers for the best results. You can avoid that extra step with laminating resin.

 

thanks!!

 

experiment w/ a little polyfill. makes the enclosure seem bigger to the subs. thus giving you the sound you want.

 

:/

 

how did you do this..........

 

All I can say is "Hello 1st National Bank.....Can I have a loan?" Killer install. Where did you get the headlights? Been looking for those for awhile. Email me at jwinn1988@yahoo.com and let me know. Damn Nice!!

 

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dont get them.........

 

Are they a pain in the *** to install or what? Too much to maintain? let me know.

 

That looks really awesome.

Thanks for sharing the pics of the build.

 

wow..interesting..ive always wonder how you guys make these crazy looking box/custom trunk. so its just fiberglass all around..does it even keep the sound inside? like is it strong enough to hold the bass? why did you guys have to use a fleece to cover it?