Audio / Security / Video Sound Systems, Alarms, Electronics
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Remote Starter question for installers

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 10:33 AM
  #1  
simplsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
From: NOVA, va, usa
Default Remote Starter question for installers

Here is the deal, My specific motor can't idle on it's own, till it is warmed up and been running for a couple minutes. (Fully built motor, skunk2 pro2 cams, all the fun stuff, comes at a price.) Once it's warm it's perfectly fine.

So my thought and then my question are, Is there a way to set a remote start like the viper system (or any other system) to idle at a certain RPM till it is dectivated by the pressing of the brake (or how ever you set it to deactivate). If so I could set it to idle at 3k when it's started on it's own, set it - and forget it, and when i get back to it, it's warmed and ready to idle on it's own. So again my question is .......... Can you set a remote start system to idle at a certain RPM???????

Thanks, Brian
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 10:55 AM
  #2  
02 accord's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 4
From: Sterling Heights, MI, USA
Default Re: Remote Starter question for installers (simplsi)

No. For that to work, you would have to install a servo or a solenoid on the throttle body to open it up enough to get your engine to 3k and hold it there. All that remote start does is turn on the ignition and the starter, and it has no way of controlling the engine other than on/off.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 10:58 AM
  #3  
8520's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 6,416
Likes: 0
From: Seattle
Default Re: Remote Starter question for installers (simplsi)

Realistically you could just do a linear actuator on the gas pedal and tie it in with the remote start sequence so that as soon as rs is deactivated it would release the actuator, hell you could probably even do that on a timed output so it would shut off the actuator after a couple mins. Would be tricky to do, but feasible imo.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 11:01 AM
  #4  
simplsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
From: NOVA, va, usa
Default

Yea i was thinking about the servo on the TB, but for conveniance and since I didn't and don't know much about the remote starts, I didn't know if there was an option, that would have just made it that easy.

But thank you so much for not just saying No, the ideas your putting out to me and great, please don't hesitate to add any more, since I will deffinetly be doing something soon.

Thanks, Brian.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 11:03 AM
  #5  
simplsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
From: NOVA, va, usa
Default

wait, how dumb am I. Couldn't i realistacly just use my cruise control (rev it to 3k set the CC, and let it do idle.)??? But does cruise control work in neutral??? Id go out and try it, but the car is at home, and I am at work.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 11:04 AM
  #6  
8520's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 6,416
Likes: 0
From: Seattle
Default Re: (simplsi)

Cruise control is set by speed not rpm, and doesn't work below 30mph.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 11:05 AM
  #7  
simplsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
From: NOVA, va, usa
Default

damn, that woulda been to easy, maybe i can some how use the CC devise though, since I was about ready to take it out anyway, Im going to look into that. Im going to do some research on how it is hooked up through the system, and maybe make it able to suit my needs. Thanks again.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 11:11 AM
  #8  
8520's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 6,416
Likes: 0
From: Seattle
Default Re: (simplsi)

^ Doing that would get VERY complicated if even possible. I would recommend either following my or 02 accord's ideas
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 11:14 AM
  #9  
02 accord's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 4
From: Sterling Heights, MI, USA
Default Re: (misanthropist)

I believe the CC module is powered by engine vacuum. I doubt that you could get that to work with the engine barely started not enough vacuum).
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 11:22 AM
  #10  
8520's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Jun 2004
Posts: 6,416
Likes: 0
From: Seattle
Default Re: (02 accord)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 02 accord &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe the CC module is powered by engine vacuum. I doubt that you could get that to work with the engine barely started not enough vacuum).</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good point
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 12:20 PM
  #11  
simplsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
From: NOVA, va, usa
Default

Good point, although i like the actuator idea, the servo sounds like a easier and more direct answer, ill try it out and let you all know. Thanks.

Where is the best place to look for a servo, Im in Nothern, VA. I was just going to head to home depot, but i then thought about it and realized they probably don't have it.
Reply
Old Oct 20, 2006 | 06:17 PM
  #12  
02 accord's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 4
From: Sterling Heights, MI, USA
Default Re: (simplsi)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by simplsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Where is the best place to look for a servo</TD></TR></TABLE>

I was thinking a hobby store that sells rc stuff. If you get a servo for an rc car, then you will also need a pwm signal generator so you can set the servo to the wanted position.

The way I see this (even easier):
Get a solenoid (electromagnet with a plunger), and connect it to the cruise control linkage. Set it up so when the solenoid is engaged, it only pulls the linkage far enough to keep the engine running (at whatever speed you want). Connect that to the remote start unit, so with the unit activated (solenoid turned on), the engine will idle at the set speed. Once you disable RS (turn off the solenoid) the engine will return to the normal idle speed. This will not interfere with the normal operation of the TB. If you used a servo on the TB (not thru the CC linkage), you would have to rotate the servo (not good for servo) with every gas pedal position change. You could also have fun with this and connect it to some timer, which will disable the solenoid after a few minutes.
Reply
Old Oct 21, 2006 | 05:47 AM
  #13  
simplsi's Avatar
Thread Starter
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 496
Likes: 0
From: NOVA, va, usa
Default

Guys thank you for all your input, and after thinking about this all night last night, the option 02 accord has mentioned is what I am going to try. I was scared about messing with the TB because of normal driving may be affected. Maybe I should try to market this for people in my same situation , but thank you all very much for the help, and I'll do a Write up on what I do, not that alot of people need this, but it would be interesting to see. Brian.

also the electromagnet solenoid with the plunger, do you have any idea where to find one of these, I actually work at a powersports shop in VA, and if im not mistaking older outboard motors use these.
Reply
Old Nov 4, 2006 | 04:59 PM
  #14  
02 accord's Avatar
Honda-Tech Member
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 2,006
Likes: 4
From: Sterling Heights, MI, USA
Default Re: (simplsi)

any updates?
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2006 | 09:46 AM
  #15  
b16civster's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 1,318
Likes: 0
From: boonies, ct
Default Re: (02 accord)

get a electronic vaccume switch to open durring remote start into the cc so it pulls the throttle and after it is chut down it bypasses it
Reply
Old Nov 5, 2006 | 10:25 AM
  #16  
fcm's Avatar
fcm
Old Fart
 
Joined: May 2004
Posts: 26,173
Likes: 18
From: kelowna, bc, canada
Default Re: (simplsi)

Check with remote start manufacturers one of them may still have a solenoid available, we used them on carbed motors, I have used trunk release solenoids, and still do for that oh so rare "non fuel injected" motor. there are all kinds of solenoids... http://www.electusdistribution...D=200 94
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
ohsnapzafingcu
All Motor / Naturally Aspirated
15
Jun 7, 2010 09:07 PM
danielfleenor
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
4
Nov 18, 2009 09:24 AM
namewasdallas
Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000)
2
Sep 24, 2008 05:59 AM
boostedsupra
Honda Accord (1990 - 2002)
8
Apr 24, 2008 04:15 PM




All times are GMT -8. The time now is 06:50 PM.