Wait, do that, but let me watch.

 

http://www.tegger.com/hondafaq/mainrelay.html 94

 

Hi, I was reading through this thread and didn't get the answer of this question.

The post that wrx-killer-Sti-eater didn't show up. I don't know if he said yes or no.


I have a 96GSR and was wondering does my main relay have 2 ground wires or one?

Can you please tell me which wire is the ground one for the main relay?

I can post up pictures of my main relay harness.


Thank you.

 

If the PGM-FI Main Relay has two black ground leads they go to the same terminal in the plug, it is a daisy chain system, one of the black leads is the ground lead, [from cars chassis] the other black lead "loops" to something else that needs a ground, [maybe to another relay, never bothered to find out, as it does not matter]

If your PGM-FI Main Relay has two black ground leads cut both leads and install the switch.

Yes post a pix. 94

 

Thanks for the reply fcm

Sorry for the late post. I just got off work.





Can you please mark which wire it is that I'm suppose to cut and add a switch too.

When I connect the switch, I don't need to mount a relay or anything right? I just cut the wire(s) in two and connect each to the switch and just hide it where ever I want the switch to go to. Correct? I'm sorry for asking all these noob questions. I just want to make sure it's right so I don't mess up.

Thanks

 

It is the black lead, looks like top right lead on top pix and bottom left on bottom pix.

That is correct, cut lead and install each lead to switch and hide switch. 94

 

Thank you sir. I will be adding the switch onto the wire tomorrow. I will post back if I am having any troubles or if I have anymore questions.


Thank you for the help fcm.

 

If I could find a guide on how to do this switch properly like you're describing here I could really use that. all the step-by-step guides I've found say the same things, and I'm sure the thieves are reading them too. I want to install kill switches someone couldn't find if they searched through the wiring trying to find them.

I'm putting in a fuel pump kill switch because I just got my car back after it having been stolen for a month and a half, and all I have on it now is the Autolock on the clutch pedal as a (very) weak deterrent plus taking a couple of fuses out at night.
(I can't believe the autolock, like 3 people told me it was great, then I find a video on youtube of a 12 year old picking one open in 5 seconds, and stories about it being bent off using just the pedal itself.)

Tomorrow i'm installing a 'ghost' switch as stealthily as I can. This how-to looks really good I plan on just following it.
https://honda-tech.com/forums/audio-security-video-27/%5Bhow-%5D-car-security-1794938/

I got a Boost mobile phone coming in the mail, i'm putting Instamapper (see http://instamapper.com) on it, as a DIY lojack. The first day my car was stolen i was cursing myself for not having done that already. that's got to be the best, if you hide it well, having the chance to get your car back and catch the thieves in the act. Of course it is defeatable; they can find it, or carry something with them like a 'cell phone jammer' (google that) which generates the right kind of RF interference.

So basically it looks like a combination of well installed, well planned anti-theft devices is the answer, that and parking in a safe place and keeping the car low key looking. Of course my neighborhood is the ghetto so there is no safe place to park.

 

Well to start... Doing the fuel pump kill is just going to get you right back into the same boat that you were in. A stolen car. All a theif is going to do is rip up the seat and tag 12 volts right to the pump. Your phone gps is a crap shot. I trying it against a real car gps unit and it failed very bad when in a stealth install. I wasted 6 hours of my life to bring you this information. The phone would lose range, Would not track in a garage, under a tree, Or next to a tall building. While the dei gps unit passed all these test. So hopefully your theif will be nice to strip your car in a open field. Not likely. Also you are not going to see any theif carrying a cell phone jammer, Nor will any company ship one into the us with out it being taken at customs. Do you know what would happen if you got caught with one that works. Federal time and fines. They do not play when it comes to those. You are playing with 911, airplanes and goverment saftey. Why do you not see to many.

The main relay kill is the best bet and I will say this over and over. When I do a write up. I will show what wires and such. But showing were to hide it is up to the owner. That would be pointless to post

 

that is so fu(king true. d4mn it. well I'm just going to read through this thread and others and come up with the best place for one. then again I don't put too much faith in kill switches in general since a Civic isn't a very complex machine they can just have a good luck at it's electrical system and find whatever you've installed. I am seeing the value of a good paging alarm system now because it would alert you while before they get to that step, unless they can disable it first.

actually I have a lot of experience with the GPS receivers and it matters a lot which phone you have - the newer phones have the same chipset as good good car GPS units. I had tried using a nextel i265 (crap GPS), i605 (much better, but still crap), finally i335, the new cheap phone - incredible, works better than my bluetooth gps unit which is 54 channels. they just updated the GPS receiver.

True, in the US the cell jammers are illegal but the federal penalties aren't exactly stiff - UP TO $11k and/or one year in jail - it could still be profitable to sell them. You can also get them as a kit mail order like a lot of other things. Unlikely sure, but still it's good to remember theres no such thing as theft-proof.

thanks thats what I need to know. I may do a write up on a good GPS tracker since I've been working with that technology for a while. One tip though is if you're going to do the easy DIY phone install, use a newer GPS phone. The new phones don't just have better GPS chipsets but also can hop frequencies when they run into interference.
if you're going to spend some money I'd say get a cellular amplifier with an external antenna and use an external GPS receiver, but for me by then I'd be spending half as much as I did on the car.

 

Let me know what phone you are using and I will put it to the test. And A good alarm install will help keep your car were it is. What theif is going to sit in front of your house with a alarm they can not shut off thats blaring. Answer is none. Or a thief thats strung out on drugs.

 

yeah alarm system is definitely next on the list. I like the idea of the pager.

I'll be using an i425 right now, I've used the i335 and it's GPS is really good for a phone. Once I get the onboard PC set up (must have alarm before that) I'll use some sort of cellular modem, EVDO or 3G, etc. with a standalone GPS receiver I can swap out when better ones come along. plus I guess with a PC some sort of radio beacon could be added.

thanks to suspendedhatch for the kill switch how-to I put a couple of them in today and feel much better about the car staying put. I hid those fu(kers good.

 

Anybody ever try to modify the backseat to make it a pain to just unbolt and pull out? I put a tamperproof bolt on it, It has the weirdest head I have ever seen. I know that bolt cutters will get you in but I'm thinking there must be another step to take.

 

I hate repetitiveness, but I have to ask. Style of switch does not matter, correct? What amp rating?