Custom Box
No, I dont believe there are any... Right now I am custom making one for my 93' lude. Its coming along well, i just cant wait to start sanding and cutting.. wooohoo.. I guess fiberglass in a very small part of the wheel well, while being able to keep the spare and fit 1.5 cu.ft for 2 10's is pretty good. Its pretty dope, and i should have plenty of trunk space still too... I just say, learn to fiberglass and build your own! Its not that hard once you get started...
I learned to fiberglass the easy way, the internet! This site has a good setup of what he did and what he used... All you need is fiberglass, and resin. I got mine all form HOME DEPOT.. Go down the adhesives aisle looking for BONDO poylester resin, the fiberglass should be right by it... both cloth and mat... Just set it up and let it dry... Not to hard eh? I'll post some pics of mine in about a week once its done and in...
-->fiberglassing site: <---http://members.iinet.net.au/~nismo/subs.html
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-->fiberglassing site: <---http://members.iinet.net.au/~nismo/subs.html
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thats a great link.....I was going to do something like that but i was thinking about building the floor a little higher so i could still use my spare.....Has anyone build a enclosure that just fits in the pockets near the strut towers?
No offense 18gTeg, but that box is full fiberglass... I guess you didnt follow the inks far enuogh to see the MDF top was just temp. while he made the other top.... I guess you should really do more research when trying to belittle others.
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I did follow it and it shows them even cutting the holes and mounting the subs into MDF. Damn Noobs
http://members.iinet.net.au/~nismo/subs13.html
Who looks like the noob now?
That is totally different from what we make. That is a cheap looking box with a full wooden front. All of our boxes are full fiberglass fronts.
I know that may sound crazy, but having a raised baffle make no sense in a daily driver. I understand that it makes for some more air space, and it allows you get get some deeper woofers in there, but not everyone can trash their whole trunk for audio.
I think it's way more trick to have a sweet sounding system that is integrated in to the car that maintains full functionality of your storage areas....I guess I'll stick to making my practical, cheap boxes, and you can bling-bling all you want....
I'm not trying to act like an ***, but if you are in business, you should know and understand that all consumers have different styles, needs, and budgets. Instead calling his box cheap, you should be giving him the thumbs up for doing the work himself...sorry if that came off harsh, but that's just my $0.02.
[Modified by rcurley55, 7:56 PM 1/8/2003]
Not at all. I am just stating that the box with the wood fronts are not what we are making for our customers. If you want a box with a wood front we suggest you do it yourself since it is not worth our time. You are correct in some aspects. But with a full fiberglass box you can take better advantage of the space available in all situations if you know what you are doing.
Well by following the first link there is nothing else to take you any farther. The link you just posted does show the box with a fiberglass front, but how did you get there from the first link. There are no navigation links on that page.
Well by following the first link there is nothing else to take you any farther. The link you just posted does show the box with a fiberglass front, but how did you get there from the first link. There are no navigation links on that page.
You are correct in some aspects. But with a full fiberglass box you can take better advantage of the space available in all situations if you know what you are doing.
If your baffle is concave, then you are wasting space, becuase there is going to be volume between the woofers that is just empty...you can't store anything there. While it's true that with a concave baffle you can always place a trim panel/grill that allows you to retain a flat floor, you will always have this wasted area. Often, because the baffle is concave, you have had to raise the height of the baffle with respect to the spare tire well floor to provide clearance for the subs.
If the baffle is convex you are encroaching on the storage area. With a convex baffle, you can't do much but work around it. It's true that now the surface that you attach the baffle to doesn't have to be as high as it does in a flat or concave scenario, but how do you get a big piece of luggage in the car?
Did I miss something here, or do I "know what I'm doing?"
I'm always open to new ideas.
I still think that for the average consumer with a daily driver neither configuration is an efficient use of space and significantly reduces the amount of storage in your vehicle. However, I can see where you guys clean up on the body/prep/paint work necessary to finish a more intricate baffle.
Your not wrong. I am just saying that we can build an enclosure that maximimzes all the space available. When it comes to the average consumer we can still provide a box that will use wasted space in the trunk-hatch area for a sub enclosure. By using a totally wood baffle this limits your options as you are stuck with the shapes you can make. No one is pointing fingers I am just explaining what we can do.
I did custom installs for years. We did fiberglass front boxes for show cars, and for the wann be show cars and stunnas. We did wood front glass boxes(or all wood) for the average consumers. It's more about what the customer wants. In my brothers GSR I did a fiberglass box with MDF front in the spare tire for a single 10" Boston Pro sub, not the spare tire well, in the spare tire, because he wanted to keep his spare tire and trunk space. I had to raise the floor 1", so he lost 1 vertical inch of trunk space, barely noticable. I would prefer to make all wood boxes, cause I could make more money in less time, but there are many times when fiberglass was required because of the shape of interior, etc.
Your not wrong. I am just saying that we can build an enclosure that maximimzes all the space available. When it comes to the average consumer we can still provide a box that will use wasted space in the trunk-hatch area for a sub enclosure. By using a totally wood baffle this limits your options as you are stuck with the shapes you can make. No one is pointing fingers I am just explaining what we can do.
I'm not saying that a raised baffle isn't cool, technically sound, etc.....It's great for a show car or if you don't need a trunk. Typically, my cars are all single subwoofers and are daily drivers that need usable trunks.
My point is that if two boxes are identical on the bottom half (I.E. the mold of the spare tire area) and the only thing that differs is the shape of the baffle, how is a raised one more efficient then a flat one...now you have a big bump in the middle of your trunk with exposed paint and woofers? IF you have a recessed woofer, now you have had to make the box larger for wasted space on the top side.
Where is the increased efficiency that you are finding with an irregular baffle?
I guess I'm saying that I would find it impossible to live with such a setup in my car. I play golf, I go snowboarding, I pick people up at the airport, go on roadtrips, go to the grocery store etc in my car. Without a flat trunk floor that I could put large items on I would be screwed.
I also don't see how any shaped baffle (except for flat) is the most efficient use of space....I'm just looking for an example. Maybe I'm overlooking something (won't be the first time
) and I'd like to know because I have a few projects in the works....Not trying to argue, just want to look at it from another perspective....two heads are most always better then one!!Sorry if I'm annoying anyone by beating a dead horse.....
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I'm not saying just for spare tire enclosure. I am looking at all areas in the trunk that you can utilize as an enlcosure. If you wanted to in the spare tire well you could make the front entirely out of fiberglass and it would be flush with the floor just like a wooden baffled box. The only difference would be that you could make a design or angle the sub slightly for a better look. You don't have to make a volcano looking box that protrudes outta the floor. I am just saying that overall you have more possibilities with an all fiberglass box. For the inefficiency part I am not using a plain old spare tire well box. In that instance the flat baffle will be the most efficient to use. But what about if you are building the box in a recess of your trunk or somewhere that there is unused space and it requires an odd shaped baffle to maximize space. Either one is good but it depends on what the customer wants. The majority of our customers that are spending money want something unique and not the ordinary spare tire enclosure with a board on top.
I'm not saying just for spare tire enclosure. I am looking at all areas in the trunk that you can utilize as an enlcosure. If you wanted to in the spare tire well you could make the front entirely out of fiberglass and it would be flush with the floor just like a wooden baffled box. The only difference would be that you could make a design or angle the sub slightly for a better look. You don't have to make a volcano looking box that protrudes outta the floor. I am just saying that overall you have more possibilities with an all fiberglass box. For the inefficiency part I am not using a plain old spare tire well box. In that instance the flat baffle will be the most efficient to use. But what about if you are building the box in a recess of your trunk or somewhere that there is unused space and it requires an odd shaped baffle to maximize space. Either one is good but it depends on what the customer wants. The majority of our customers that are spending money want something unique and not the ordinary spare tire enclosure with a board on top.
I was limiting my discussion to just spare tire boxes, but for instance on a prelude or a civic, it's easy to get a single 10 or 12 in the right or left side of the trunk on a vertical baffle with the entire box behind the trunk lid hinge...etc.
Still needs to be wet sanded and buffed. Then the trim panels will be installed and the rear of the car put back together. The pic is a little crooked but it gives you the idea of what we can do
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