Which is better Compustar or Viper 791xv TIA 4 any Input

 

Viper 791 or the clifford rsx3.5. Compustar is nice but has some flaws.

 

Kind of depends, if your car is an automatic, they are both about the same, if your car is a standard, the Compustar is the better unit, either way the Compustar has the better range. 94

 

actually dei just released a piece to use in conjuction with there remote starts so that you can use them on manual transmission vehicles safely.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JSPECSIR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">actually dei just released a piece to use in conjuction with there remote starts so that you can use them on manual transmission vehicles safely.</TD></TR></TABLE>

But I think its like $99!

 

Yes I know, you can get the same thing from Peripheral, just another off-board module that needs to be installed someplace, one of the reasons I liked the Compustar over the DEIs before, [built in relays], now there are "satellite relay packs" and a module, if you have a standard, [that's a $100 module by the way].

I am not real impressed with DEIs solution to a remote start for standards. 94

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am not real impressed with DEIs solution to a remote start for standards. 94</TD></TR></TABLE>

Me either, esp with the models that already have a turbo timer function in use. It would be so easy to incorporate something like the compustar. I plan to always have the timer on (yes I have a turbo), so I know my car will never be in gear. I have alway been the type to just use the e-brake and leave the car in natural. (5+ year turbo timer user)

If I have to park on a hill and want to leave it in gear, I will just flip the neutral safety toggle.

 

I just don't like the compustar valet feature. It really sucks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti-eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just don't like the compustar valet feature. It really sucks.</TD></TR></TABLE>
no $hit what thief couldn't get past that. Dumbest valet I have ever seen.

 

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no $hit what thief couldn't get past that. Dumbest valet I have ever seen.</TD></TR></TABLE>

My exact thoughts when I read the installation manual.

 

Yea, it's not what I thought would be very effective, and an easy way to override the alarm, but then again, not without first triggering the alarm. 94

 

DEI (Viper/Python/Clifford/Hornet) alarms are bulletproof. You hook it up wrong, the tampering circuitry inside protects the brain from frying out. Simply correct you mistakes and it works! (assuming you didn't jack up the car) Some examples of this are hooking up the parking brake or door trigger to the wrong polarity. DEI made it this way 1) to make it impossible for thieves to short out the brain and 2) to reduce their warranty claims from half-cracked professional installers of which there are many.

Compustar has the most god-awful instructions I have ever read. Their alarms are not at all forgiving of mistakes. But if you install them correctly, they're a great alarm from the user's point of view.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suspendedHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Compustar has the most god-awful instructions I have ever read. Their alarms are not at all forgiving of mistakes. But if you install them correctly, they're a great alarm from the user's point of view.</TD></TR></TABLE> Compustar inputs and outputs are also diode protected, connect them up wrong and they simply do not work, rewire and your back in business, I have done this on a few Compustar systems installed by those same half-cracked "pro installers".

I keep hearing that about Compustar alarms, poor wiring guides, but I just do not understand why, the install guide gives pin positions and color code, polarity, what the lead is for, and if it is a low current output, [250mA].
The wiring guide gives connector number, pin number wire color, polarity and if it is a low current lead and a discription of what the wire is for.
Are the US versions diff. then Canadian version, I know ours have more range then the US versions, [something to do with your FCC rules] but what is missing in the install/wire guides???

 

I wish I had kept some of the instructions for the Compustar's I did. It was very poor english as if it had been translated. It was very vague and even misleading.

My opinion of Compustar might be outdated by now. I haven't done any in over two years.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by suspendedHatch &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Compustar has the most god-awful instructions I have ever read. Their alarms are not at all forgiving of mistakes. But if you install them correctly, they're a great alarm from the user's point of view.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I agree and really slow customer service. Like 2 1/2 months to fix a simple problem. I dont think I would buy another one.

 

http://www.staub.ca/tech/manuals.html 94

 

Well okay, I guess I'm being called out. The first Compustar I installed was a 2W900FM. Actually that's not even the alarm, I think that's just the remote's part #. That's the number the customer gave me and when I went looking for the instructions on the site, I could only find user manuals. So after looking through all of the alarm manuals I decided that the CM3300 resembled my alarm the most.

The next thing I noticed is that every damn thing on the alarm required an external relay. The parking lights, the doorlocks, the domelight, the starter kill (I had been spoiled by DEI's high end alarms where even the start kill is built in (791XV, the 5000, 3000, 1000).

I'm looking at the manual that I just downloaded and they actually went back and corrected MOST of the bad grammar/poor translation. But still... let's say you're someone advocating DIY installs, trying to do write-ups to teach first timers how to do their own alarms stealth since most people have no professional recourse.

Here's the Compustar manual, one measley page with nothing to elaborate:




Here's the DEI instruction manual, just under 20 pages of detailed, descriptive instructions that answer 90% of the questions we get on this forum about alarms if only the people installing the alarm would read them. I should copy and paste this information up for people to read regardless of what alarm they're installing.



I feel like an A-hole but I swear to god Compustar has revised their instruction manual since the last time I installed one over two years ago. But still, 1 page of a simple wire chart vs DEI's wire charts and 20 pages of GOOD info.

Now I'm going back to removing words like "condom" "love" and "*******" from my new site which I suspect to be to blame for the site getting blocked by the proxy at my work under the websense category "sex"?!!? You tell me if this site is "sex". Come on, it's good, BUT NOT THAT GOOD. http://causeforalarm.thecarthi...n6.EG/

 

I am not sure I understand, in relation to the Compustar wiring guide you posted, is this the now one or the old one, either way park light output relay is built in, [CN1/2] as it is on all of them, they also come with a low current park light neg.(-) output, [CN2/1] as all of them do.

Actually one of the reasons I like the Compustar over DEI, or any alarm that has relays built in, is the fact that the outputs are low current, [small gauge wire] making easier to do stealth installs, from running the alarm wiring in the stock wire looms, [harnesses] to the ability to install the relays at different locations, [stealthier] in the car.

Anyway, as I was wondering before about there being a diff. in what guides you get with the Compustar units in the US and Canada, all Compustar units in Canada come with an "Installation Guide" like the one you show and a "Guide to Installation"... http://www.staub.ca/tech/Manua...l.pdf

The other thing I hear is poor tech support, again is this a US problem, because it has never been a problem up here, if tech support at the distributor, [Staub] can't help with a problem, they will just connect us directly to Firstech and if they do not have a solution then and there, they say replace the unit.

In fact, Staub policy is, do not make the customer wait, replace the unit under warranty right away, send "defective" unit to them with discription of problem, and that is lifetime to the original owner.
Is this not the case in the US^^^

All the other brands, except Audiovox, but including DEI, would replace unit within a year, but required it be sent to manufacture for repair or replacement after one year.

The debate will go on about which is better, IMO it is the Compustar, for a few reasons. 94