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Old Mar 30, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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Alright, I have 2 10" subs that I wanna hook up to my system. They are 500 watts a piece, so I am wondering what kinda AMP I need. As in power and what not. I do not a whole lot about this, which is why I am asking. Who knows what I need, and where I can get it for a good price. Also, I have Monster Cable's 500 Watt Power Hookup Kit and Monster Cable Interlink 201XLN (Car Audio InterConnect I believe). What all do I need to hook up these 2 subs to my head unit?? Thanks!
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Old Mar 30, 2002 | 03:24 PM
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Ok first off, what kind of 10s? What Ohm impedance? Need a little more info. I run a power Acoustik q4-840.. its an 840 watt 4 channel with the subs bridged.. loud as hell.. check out http://www.bestofcaraudio.com

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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 09:03 AM
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Kenwood KFC-W2505 10-Inch Subwoofer

Frequency Response: 28Hz - 800Hz
Impedance: 4 ohms
One-Piece Cone Design
Pearl Mica Injection-Molded Polypropylene Cone: 10" Tornado-Type
Power Handling: 500 Watts
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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 01:25 PM
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Check out that link i posted above. They have some good amps. look only for the 4 channels because they have the impedance you need also they are bridgable for extra power.

Good luck man

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Old Apr 1, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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Thanks much, I found some good amps... time to buy
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Old Apr 2, 2002 | 05:26 AM
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Good deal, let me know what you are going with and if you need any help with the install or anything.


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Old Apr 2, 2002 | 08:29 AM
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they're ok amps. one thing though, on the chart, under 4ohm RMS, it says 90x4. below that chart is the same model, but this time its 110x4 (4ohm RMS). i'm confused. maybe they meant to say the 110x4 is at 2ohm? hrm...

anyways...even with 90watt to the sub, they should be ok. those kenwood subs can handle up to 130 watt RMS. only 40 watts away. don't bridge the amp. the sub won't take that much power. if you're gonna bridge it, set the gain as low as possible.

great price. you can't beat it for only $169.

can i make a suggestion here? i recommend the US Acoustics USX2100. it's rated 100x2 at 4ohm and 300x1 bridged. if you're planning to use this amp, run it using one channel as this amp is underrated. it should put out about 130watt at 14.4volts. best of all...it only cost $139.95 at crutchfield. you'll get a 3-year warrenty incase anything happens.
http://crutchfield.com/cgi-bin/S-ly2...SX210B&o=m&a=0
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Old Apr 2, 2002 | 09:34 AM
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I would suggest the US Acoustics as well, but he's got two 4 ohm subs.

Go and get a JBL600.1 over on ebay for about 200, that will give you 600w x 1 at your 2 ohm mono load. It's a cheap reiable and fairly good amp, especially for the money.

Personally, I wouldn't buy anthing from that site. Power Acoustic is not the "best" of car audio
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Old Apr 2, 2002 | 04:01 PM
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Ya they can handle 130 watts RMS, I just saw that..... my friend was telling me to get an amp that was 300 watts x 2 channels. I am just looking for a good buy, so I'll go check out the JBL one in a min. Now onto install, how hard is it? I mean installing a deck is easy, I did that but running all the cords and everything, how hard is it??

I have the following Monster Car Audio stuff for install: 2 channel interlink cable (5 meters), and The Monster Car Audio 500 Watt Power Hook Up Kit which has standard power cable, standard ground cable, in line fuse holder w/ fuse, guage remote turn on wire, 2 gold contact 4 guage ring terminals and cable ties... What else do I need to hook everything up?

Thanks and if anyone sees an amp that will work for a good price, let me know. I don't need the best, cause Kenwood subs are not #1, but something ample... Thanks
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Old Apr 2, 2002 | 11:44 PM
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I would suggest the US Acoustics as well, but he's got two 4 ohm subs.
yes i know he has 2 4ohm subs. thats why i recommended the US acoustics. it's rated 100x2 at 4ohm at 12.5volt. up the voltage to 14.4volt, it should be making about 130x2 which is sufficient for him. this will be a better choice than the JBL 600.1 because it's running on stereo instead of mono. also at 2ohm, the JBL will put out about 700watts which is too much for 2 kenwoods to handle (350 watts to each sub is not a good idea.) remember that the kenwoods is rated at 130watt RMS. $200 is a good deal for a JBL 600.1, but the US acoustics is only $99.95.





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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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Buy this amp. Even at the buy it now price you cant beat it. $700.00 new, very good amp, you could power anything you wanted to with it. I remember way back when when we used to hook up two kicker 12's and two kicker 10's to this same type of amp brigded. After about an hour you could cook an egg on it, it never shut down though.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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Buy this amp. Even at the buy it now price you cant beat it. $700.00 new, very good amp, you could power anything you wanted to with it. I remember way back when when we used to hook up two kicker 12's and two kicker 10's to this same type of amp brigded. After about an hour you could cook an egg on it, it never shut down though.
indeed a good amp, but its used. he could get the US acoustics for a cheaper price and have the 3 year warrenty to go with it. i like autotek amps. great sound quality amps. too bad i could never afford them. maybe when i get a job one day
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 05:26 PM
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$100.00 is hard to beat and I am probably gonna buy it... I am looking right now, so thanks!


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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 08:48 PM
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indeed a good amp, but its used. he could get the US acoustics for a cheaper price and have the 3 year warrenty to go with it. i like autotek amps. great sound quality amps. too bad i could never afford them. maybe when i get a job one day
I assure you Autotek are first class amps. I still have a 50wx2 amp from 1993, it still works perfect and would put a lot of amps by todays standards to shame. I don't even think you could compare a Coustic amp to an Autotek. Autoteks are very well built and if it still works it will work years to come.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 09:38 PM
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I assure you Autotek are first class amps. I still have a 50wx2 amp from 1993, it still works perfect and would put a lot of amps by todays standards to shame. I don't even think you could compare a Coustic amp to an Autotek. Autoteks are very well built and if it still works it will work years to come.
yes i know they are first class amps. thats why they are my first choice of amp to run my Sound quality CDT components. i love the way they look and perform. i know they will last a very long time, but they aren't enough to fit his application.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:27 PM
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I assure you tthe Autotek amp has more than enough power to run those tens, exspecially since it being compared against an acoustic. I don't care how many watts that acoustic says it has, there is a reason one is a $100 and the other is $700. There is no comparison for $150 used or not you can not compare a $100 coustic amp to it. The Autotek would win in any test performed.

Like I said before I ran 2 12's and 2 10's in parallel bridged to the amp. This means a 1 ohm load, bridged means the amp saw half of this which is 1/2 ohm. These amps are built tough!!! There has to be some one else here with an opinion, $150 is crazy cheap for that amp and you will not find a better one for that price. Actually there are a few others I might pick but Coustic would be no where on that list.

That Autotek is rated at 480wx1 into 2 ohms, Autotek way under rates there amps.



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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 10:56 PM
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That Autotek is rated at 480wx1 into 2 ohms, Autotek way under rates there amps.

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here we go again... even with 480x1, each sub will be getting 240 watts. thats 110 watts over their rated RMS. this is not recommended. bottom line: the us aacoustics fits his application perfectly and its is cheap. $99.95 NEW. i don't care if that autotek amp was $700 or not new, but it is being sold USED for $150. i wonder why the owner decided to sell it so cheap? maybe something was wrong with it? i don't know. to me, i like having the idea of buying equipments that are new so i won't have to worry much. US acoustics have proven themselves a worthy brand. i know autotek will be light years ahead of us acoustics, but that doesn't mean you can't buy a us acoustics amp for normal everyday use. he just need something to bump on. like he mentioned before, he doesn't need top of the line products.
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Old Apr 3, 2002 | 11:51 PM
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If that's the replacement for the KFC-W3003, the power rating is a overexxagerated power rating. I'd suggest a JL 2501 which would be perfect. TI goes for $360 MSRP.




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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 05:31 AM
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each sub will be getting 240 watts. thats 110 watts over their rated RMS. this is not recommended.
Not recommended by who? You? If you where that worried about it you could run the speakers in series then bridge it to the amp. You would be getting half the power. I always wondered how all those cheap amps sold, now from reading this board I know how. Live and learn I guess, you know what they say you get what you pay for.
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 08:16 AM
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Not recommended by who? You?
not recommended by kenwood.

If you where that worried about it you could run the speakers in series then bridge it to the amp.
i realized you can do that.

You would be getting half the power.
true....

I always wondered how all those cheap amps sold, now from reading this board I know how.
people who are on a budget that don't need the best of the best buy cheaper amps. people like me that knows that a cheap reliable amp will work as well as any $500 5 year old amp. for a reliablity comparison, would you rather have a 2002 honda accord or a 1996 toyota camry?(and don't be bias)

Live and learn I guess, you know what they say you get what you pay for.
yes i sure do know that i get what i pay for.


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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 12:27 PM
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people who are on a budget that don't need the best of the best buy cheaper amps. people like me that knows that a cheap reliable amp will work as well as any $500 5 year old amp. for a reliablity comparison, would you rather have a 2002 honda accord or a 1996 toyota camry?(and don't be bias)
This is a good analogy but you are compairing two car that are equal in value and options. Comparing those two amps would be like comparing that 2002 Accord with say a used NSX. I think by my name you can see which I would choose. This is the same thing I asked myself when I bought my NSX. I look for the best value in the things I purchase. How much do you think you could get for that $100 coustic amp in 9 years, not much. I bought my Autotek in 93 for $100 I could sell it today for that easily. That means if I sell the amp, it essentially didn't cost me anything. I think we are getting of topic so I won't post any further responces.


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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 12:36 PM
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bottom line: the us aacoustics fits his application perfectly and its is cheap. $99.95 NEW.
I think its funny that I asked a question, and you guys started "arguing" over what I should buy! I actually appreciate it (cause this is a forum, open to opinion), cause I am learnign a lot from reading your rebuttals to one and other. I am on a budget in a sense, and I do not need the best of the best. That is why I have Kenwood subs, they are no where near the best but they suit my needs and were a good price. This amp for $100 is a good price and will work perfectly with what you all are telling me. Does anyone disagree with me? Thank you all for your help, can I once again have the link to this amp.. Open box or Bandpass? Should that be the next question??


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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 01:16 PM
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If thats what you want then get it. I don't think anyone on here is arguing. It makes no difference to me what you pick. Just trying to help, I have been there and done that so I know the differences. As long as your the happy buyer thats all that matters. I guess I just look at things a little different than most.
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Old Apr 4, 2002 | 01:34 PM
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If thats what you want then get it. I don't think anyone on here is arguing. It makes no difference to me what you pick. Just trying to help, I have been there and done that so I know the differences. As long as your the happy buyer thats all that matters. I guess I just look at things a little different than most.
yea. no one here is arguing. we all have our own opinions. he has his and i have mine. i respect his opinion and hold nothing against it. its a forum and a forum is opened for suggestions.
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Old Apr 6, 2002 | 11:36 AM
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OK I think you guys read my post the wrong way... Yes everyone is entitled to their own opinions, and I wasn't saying that was bad at all! I appreciate all your opinions greatly and you all have helped me, so thank you.
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