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SR20S13

i'm so tempted to just order the damn thing lol

Poppin

Me too!!

DDTECH

Cut - Reweld, like modded pX on the runners.

Spawne32

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Gonna be honest, looks like **** compared to what i was expecting.

raverx3m

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what are the specs of aebs typhoon manifold anyone know?

all i know is that its bigger plenum than ITR/skunk2 and longer runners but i still cant find exact specs.

MikeySpec

Quality cast aluminum street n/a manifold priced well with great features.....

what else were you expecting?


If no one has tested one in spring time on a 1.8L, i have a couple 230+whp oem bottom end combo's that are on virgin PX's that could use a little more power.

SR20S13

Don't worry mikey, I might just buy it and maybe we could make some testing love child again!

Spawne32

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I see a generic intake manifold with a removable plenum.

Very large difference in the way that manifold is made compared to this. Im sure thats going to play a large difference in the way it performs, but like i said, im waiting for the results, lets see how it does.

gutted-dx

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Are there any more pics of the street version?

MikeySpec

Can you explain further? I've personally yet to see a design very much like this in a cast mass produced piece. Are you saying its generic in design or in its casting process? What i see in the design at the end of the runners is the same kind of thing i've tested when hand porting RBC manifolds and have seen gains on. I can't speak for its gains or losses on the dyno YET, but coming from a guy who lives on a dyno and tests everything he gets his hands on.....i gotta say that i like this design. I'm not arguing your opinion...i'm just curious on how this manifold is viewed as a piece of **** or generic?

FlewByU352

An extrude hone would be nice on that thing. The casting looks rough as all hell! I'd at least do a casting cleanup on the velocity stack portion and as far into the runners I could get without cutting.

raverx3m

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they probably could have done a final touch with an abrasive cone in the exact shape of how runners need to be so they are all even

Spawne32

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There is a discernible difference to the shape of the velocity stacks on the ultra race series compared to the street series, the street series almost follows the same shape (despite being slightly raised) as the pro series internals.

JeffBro

Thanks for uploading the pictures I put them up on the first post so we can compare.

my opinion:
Looks pretty good I see two things that could be improved but overall I still am impressed with the product. 1) The casting looks rough but still looks better than some other manifolds. 2) Transitions look somewhat tight between runners. I still like the product though for the price and the features. Its got removable plenum, tapered plenum, velocity stacks, and don't forget universal bolt pattern all at affordable price. No other manifold on the market has all these features in one design for under $400.

In response to the size of the runners I speculate skunk2 sized it smaller so accommodate smaller builds

crazydominicanman

Wonder how the 3.5 would do on a b16a2

JeffBro

Here's where my car was last I put it on the dyno though I expect it will be higher with ID1000. Before I put the ultra on I will retune it to get a fair comparison.

84x89
12:1 c/r
ported b16 head
rc550 @ 95% on E85
Pro series manifold
68mm throttle body

Spawne32

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Excited to see your results, im really hoping that its a good product, its price point puts it at a position to be a good contender with much more expensive manifolds.

raverx3m

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wonder if it was designed like the automobiles.

first develop the top of the line model.

crapify the design so it looks shitty and performs worse. spending more time and research.

then sell it for cheaper in order to keep the inflated price on the top model that cost manufacturer less money to develop than base model.

Spawne32

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Id be willing to bet money the street version is overstock of the original design that has been modified with a different plenum type. I see no reason why the original shape of the velocity stacks wasnt maintained into the street version anyway. But ill give it the benefit of the doubt that they look like crap for some scientific reason.

raverx3m

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becasue then people wouldnt buy the more expensive version.
i swear i saw this somewhere not too long ago.same strategy that was even admited by a company that made the product.

few examples would be:
early CPU models were overclockable and stable. locked on next version so people buy more expensive cpu
certain cell phones. could be loaded with firmware from another model LOCKED with next update by manufacturer.
media players that were hacked to increase functionality that was never intended by manufacturer(even though the hardware supported it 100% stable) locked with software update without ability to downgrade.next version released with desired specs and support dropped for older model so people buy the newer model. but it was too late and people turned away from that company and never bought the new model because of the **** the company pulled on its customers... major fail then they cried and lowered the prices considerably to get rid of overstocked products

2 similar headphones are released. cheaper ones are tested and have very good specs. they get too popular and other models dont sell. they get pulled off the market and rebranded under different model name and sold for higher price next year.

if a cheaper model is very close to the top end and can be easily modified to perform like the more expensive one then people would do it and not buy the top end model...
just how it is

MikeySpec

I don't see the relevance. I highly doubt this was a "reject" design that is aimed at sloppy seconds. Manifolds are not one size fits all. The ultra line looks more comparable to the edelbrock line of the VX and PX seeing as they each were specifically built to try and suit certain setups.

Spawne32

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well jeffbro is gonna work the magic for us on the dyno, so lets see if its hype or not.

raverx3m

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i think its designed for honda tech lol

if they just released the ultra then people would bash skunk 2 again for not making it cheap enough lol. and if they released jsut the crappified version then the "baller racers" would complain how shitty the design is and bash skunk2 for not making it good enough.

JeffBro

Haha I can appreciate the skepticism. I'm at times impressed by what they can do with marketing. It serves a purpose though.