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Old 04-17-2012, 06:08 PM
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For timing.. its pretty simple.. flat around 30 degrees give or take one or 2 from 4500 up.

I did have to add a touch of fuel w/the new header but not much.

Exhaust pressure is key.. I really wish we had an exhaust pressure sensor in this car. Thats why the cam gear adjustments were needed. Small tubes = alot of pressure and require different amounts of overlap... at least thats what my logic is telling me.
JDogg, thats very interesting. so fuel was slightly adjusted, what about timing?

so with bigger tubes, and less pressure, overlap decreases?
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For timing.. its pretty simple.. flat around 30 degrees give or take one or 2 from 4500 up.

I did have to add a touch of fuel w/the new header but not much.

Exhaust pressure is key.. I really wish we had an exhaust pressure sensor in this car. Thats why the cam gear adjustments were needed. Small tubes = alot of pressure and require different amounts of overlap... at least thats what my logic is telling me.
^^^This right here answered a ton of N/A build questions I've had for a long time but could never seem to extract from anyone. Thanks man.
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You can try a pro3 on on the intake side....
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Never really thought about a mixed set of cams on an N/A set up.
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nice!
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You can try a pro3 on on the intake side....
Seems to be the flavor of the month in cam choice. DonF told me a little while back that he'd like to try that combo. I'd love to see what kind of results it nets on a setup like this.
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we probably wont be doing a whole lot more with this setup. 260 is pretty well maxing whats possible on an 84mm bore.

We are going to work on getting it down the track and possibly building a big motor for next year.
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You really don't think there would be SOME more to be had with a bigger cam? Just about every 2.0L build I've seen that went back2back with the Pro2 and Pro3, the Pro3 made more power almost everywhere along the curve.

Correct me if I'm wrong.
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Nice build, I like the pro 2 cams.

I personally don't see the high rpm killing the sleeves but a couple tanks of mediocre gas at the pump certainly could.
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there might be a hp or 2 here or there, but I dont think there is enough power in this bottom end to justify spending the money and time to do a whole lot more testing.

The rpms are going to kill this thing. We see it pushing a little coolant at the end of the 10k rpm pulls, doesnt happen when we stop at 9k. It looks like the top of the sleeves are starting to move around at 10k rpms.
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Pushing coolant? I'm guessing you're talking about it coming from the overflow tank?
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Default Re: Simple B20vtec build - 257hp 162tq

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Pushing coolant? I'm guessing you're talking about it coming from the overflow tank?
yeah.. the sleeve moves around and the headgasket leaks a little.
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I was just making sure I was following you correctly on that issue. So my next question does it have a block guard? I'm guessing no.
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Any preference on piston rings for the high CR?
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is this a mojavi built motor jdogg????
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nice info as well
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Mojavi built FTW!! I work with the mad scientist.

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Default Re: Simple B20vtec build - 257hp 162tq

Originally Posted by JDogg
Just wanted to share what a good combination can do

this is a stock sleeve b20 block
8.25cc 84mm wiseco pistons
eagle rods
stock 89mm crank
skunk pro 2 cams
supertech springs and retainers
ferrea cheap valves (not the good ones but the cheaper ones)
CNC port work by BradZ at RLZ
Victor X intake manifold
Omnipower 70mm tb
small tube hytech knock off with 3 inch exhaust
93 pump gas

Impressive build. What was the budget for your build?
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Default Re: Simple B20vtec build - 257hp 162tq

Very nice, so wondering how you got the 13.5 compression ratio? Just playing with numbers on zeals calculator, b20's have a different compression height piston, not sure what the wisecos come with, I got compression around 12.7 or 14.5 on the calculator, thanks.
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