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Old 08-31-2004, 10:24 PM
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Default Benson Sleeved/ Import Builders pistons/ Toda C charts

Went to one of my favorite places in the world: Church Automotive Testing.
Shawn worked his magic and managed to pull some decent gains out of the old ITR. Blew up the motor a few months back so Dan Benson sleeved it for me and Jeff from Import Builders hooked me up with some 81.5mm Wiseco pistons. The engine is running Toda 'C's and Hondata.
Here is the before and after (tuning) torque graph:



Before and after (tuning) HP:



Here is a graph of the old motor (stock block, Skunk2 Stage 2 cams) vs the new (love that Toda mid-range ):




Finally, we slapped on Shawn's magic dyno intake to see if there were any gains to be had (over the AEM CAI). As you can see, they were pretty close-the intake resonance was just at different rpm points:



I would like to thank Shawn for an awesome job tuning the motor, Jeff for getting me those pistons (IB Spec Wiseco pistons always deliver ), and Dan Benson for another flawless block
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what compression you at
nice numbers
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nice numbers for an 1.8.....
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ArinX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what compression you at
nice numbers </TD></TR></TABLE>

I 2nd this, was the cr the same4 as your old setup with S2S2 cams or did you bump it up on the rebuild?
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niice, this sorta looks like my setup

what header are u running and what CR?
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Nice numbers!
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I think a video through the gears is in order
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what compression ratio?
Also how many miles did you break in the new motor & rings on?

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Default Re: Benson Sleeved/ Import Builders pistons/ Toda C charts (Charlie Moua)

Compression is around 11.5-12:1. 400 miles on the motor since the rebuild. Header is the Comptech 4-2-1 race header. Hytech header coming soon
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Im thinking the Toda C's are a little too much cam for that motor... Id say try and get your hands on a set of JUN 3's and see which of the 2 the motor likes better...

Damn nice #'s for a 1.8 grocery getter...
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rick Solis &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im thinking the Toda C's are a little too much cam for that motor... Id say try and get your hands on a set of JUN 3's and see which of the 2 the motor likes better...

Damn nice #'s for a 1.8 grocery getter... </TD></TR></TABLE>

You need at least high 12s compression to get the full potential out of Cs anyway don't you?
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You need at least high 12s compression to get the full potential out of Cs anyway don't you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, 12,5:1 or so would be nice on Toda C cams.
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Default Re: Benson Sleeved/ Import Builders pistons/ Toda C charts (Manuel)

Nice Build, Nice Graph, JEFF IB !
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Nice :-)
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great job! sounds like you a fast street car for 91 octane!
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very nice numbers!
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nice #
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so thats about 194 whp on a dynojet, correct? shawn was telling me last week that its about 20 hp higher.
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More like 202 on a DynoJet. The old motor made 202 on Shawn's dyno and 192 at Rage Performance. I will probably hit a DynoJet for a baseline in the coming months just to compare.
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very nice for a 81.5mm
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Todd ... where is your JECKYL N HYDE engine?? whats the latest news on it ???
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Block is together. If all goes well the car should be running this weekend. The only problem is that Hurricane Howard is generating some awesome swell, so I might be surfing when I should be putting the engine in
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wow todd.... you man are rich !!
you build this, and then you build that ...
keep the good work todd ,keep us update
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