b18c high compression & nitrous
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b18c high compression & nitrous
ok guys ive been bobing around for the last 2 or 3 days
changing my mind many times and everything...askings questions!
and now ive got my setup in my and its stuck in there good
96 spec b18c R
(11.1:1)
91 octane (thanks cali:/)
hondata S300
TOP END/HEAD:
---------------
skunk2 pro 1's
supertech black nitride coated flat faced valves (little CR bump here! est CR 11.3:1)
supertech bronze valve guides w/ new seals
supertech titanium retainers
supertech dual valve springs
new style LMA's (lost motion assembly...help keep the virbration/noise down with new VT and cams)
PORTFLOW PnP'ed & resurfaced head (straight through port for better fuel efficieny...not milling it at all!)
ARP head blots
2 layer head gasket (might go oem depending on pistons...but est. CR 11.7-11.8:1)
endyn breather kit(oil catch can)
skunk2 pro series intanke manifold (port matched to head)
hondata intake manifold gasket
68mm (tapered) thottle body
AEM 3" CAI
DEI air intake charge cooler kit (gonna be spraying...colder/denser air= more power)
logic motorsports header 2.5" (mainly getting it bc ground clearence...i ride low)
T1R 70mm (2 3/4") full exhaust w/ test pipe
possibly a resinator undecided yet.
290-310cc injectors (with a wet/direct port it mixes with fuel so no need for huge inectors or pump)
B&M FPR (higher fuel pressure to get a better spray pattern)
walbro 190lph in tank fuel pump
areomotive inline fuel filter w/ **** off valve (security procaution...)
MSD 7 plus ignition
MSD coil
MSD 8.5mm wire
NGK plus 7-8 heat range
AEM wideband*
prosports water temp/oil pressure/intake air temp gauges*
BOTTOM END:
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b18c R block (hot tanked & possibly zero decked? what do u guys think)
type r crank (balanced & slightly knifed edged...nothing to exstensive)
Eagle/crower fordged rods
(pistons undecided...need help here)
US type r .25mm oversized forged pistons (10.6:1)
i know oversized will net a little bump in displacement but can i run .25mm over without honing/boring the block?
also wanna run them bc if i get the block decked it will raise my CR.
i wanna stay around 11.8:1 at the most!
so questions:
if i zero deck the block should i run into P2V issues?
and how much of a CR bump should i expect?
should i run a smaller CR piston? i dont want anything over 11.8:1?
(with flat valves and thiner head gasket and 10.6:1 my est. CR is like 11.3:1-11.5:1...but if i zero deck the block what woudl it jump to?)
im looking for 11.3-11.8:1 on 91 octane pump gas
(i know i could do 12:1 but i dont wanna risk detonation so 11.8:1 gives me a little insurance lol)
also i want the block to resemble a stock one...i mean like no different stroke or boring/honing!!!
only thing id really do to the block is zero deck it!
pretty much want it to be stock but upgraded*...such as forged parts and
a little lower compression if it gets zero decked!
i wanna zero deck it bc i can get a more efficient fuel burn that way (better mpg in theory...its always nice to have a efficiently working built motor)
is it a good idea to have a zero decked block with a nitrous setup? (75-100 wet/direct port)
and what roughly do you think it would cost (realisticly)? i have like 10-11 grand to spend on it all would my buget cover this?
gonna be tuned by bubba at do-it-dyno so everyone knows.
looking for 215-225whp off the laughing gas and like 300whp on it
let me know what you think. and plz try to answer some of my lingering question!
also pitch information if you think theres better parts or ways to go about it.
drasicly need ifo on that bottom end...(decking and piston choice and if im ok running .25mm over without boring/honing)
thanks for all who help
changing my mind many times and everything...askings questions!
and now ive got my setup in my and its stuck in there good
96 spec b18c R
(11.1:1)
91 octane (thanks cali:/)
hondata S300
TOP END/HEAD:
---------------
skunk2 pro 1's
supertech black nitride coated flat faced valves (little CR bump here! est CR 11.3:1)
supertech bronze valve guides w/ new seals
supertech titanium retainers
supertech dual valve springs
new style LMA's (lost motion assembly...help keep the virbration/noise down with new VT and cams)
PORTFLOW PnP'ed & resurfaced head (straight through port for better fuel efficieny...not milling it at all!)
ARP head blots
2 layer head gasket (might go oem depending on pistons...but est. CR 11.7-11.8:1)
endyn breather kit(oil catch can)
skunk2 pro series intanke manifold (port matched to head)
hondata intake manifold gasket
68mm (tapered) thottle body
AEM 3" CAI
DEI air intake charge cooler kit (gonna be spraying...colder/denser air= more power)
logic motorsports header 2.5" (mainly getting it bc ground clearence...i ride low)
T1R 70mm (2 3/4") full exhaust w/ test pipe
possibly a resinator undecided yet.
290-310cc injectors (with a wet/direct port it mixes with fuel so no need for huge inectors or pump)
B&M FPR (higher fuel pressure to get a better spray pattern)
walbro 190lph in tank fuel pump
areomotive inline fuel filter w/ **** off valve (security procaution...)
MSD 7 plus ignition
MSD coil
MSD 8.5mm wire
NGK plus 7-8 heat range
AEM wideband*
prosports water temp/oil pressure/intake air temp gauges*
BOTTOM END:
-------------
b18c R block (hot tanked & possibly zero decked? what do u guys think)
type r crank (balanced & slightly knifed edged...nothing to exstensive)
Eagle/crower fordged rods
(pistons undecided...need help here)
US type r .25mm oversized forged pistons (10.6:1)
i know oversized will net a little bump in displacement but can i run .25mm over without honing/boring the block?
also wanna run them bc if i get the block decked it will raise my CR.
i wanna stay around 11.8:1 at the most!
so questions:
if i zero deck the block should i run into P2V issues?
and how much of a CR bump should i expect?
should i run a smaller CR piston? i dont want anything over 11.8:1?
(with flat valves and thiner head gasket and 10.6:1 my est. CR is like 11.3:1-11.5:1...but if i zero deck the block what woudl it jump to?)
im looking for 11.3-11.8:1 on 91 octane pump gas
(i know i could do 12:1 but i dont wanna risk detonation so 11.8:1 gives me a little insurance lol)
also i want the block to resemble a stock one...i mean like no different stroke or boring/honing!!!
only thing id really do to the block is zero deck it!
pretty much want it to be stock but upgraded*...such as forged parts and
a little lower compression if it gets zero decked!
i wanna zero deck it bc i can get a more efficient fuel burn that way (better mpg in theory...its always nice to have a efficiently working built motor)
is it a good idea to have a zero decked block with a nitrous setup? (75-100 wet/direct port)
and what roughly do you think it would cost (realisticly)? i have like 10-11 grand to spend on it all would my buget cover this?
gonna be tuned by bubba at do-it-dyno so everyone knows.
looking for 215-225whp off the laughing gas and like 300whp on it
let me know what you think. and plz try to answer some of my lingering question!
also pitch information if you think theres better parts or ways to go about it.
drasicly need ifo on that bottom end...(decking and piston choice and if im ok running .25mm over without boring/honing)
thanks for all who help
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Re: b18c high compression & nitrous
come on guys i know someone has some infomation to offer me
also how much of a displacement increase owuld i see?
i wanna get a rough answer!
so like from 1797cc to like 1825cc? would it be more or less? lol just want a rough idea dont care for exact number!
just wanna know its it like 1825 or 1850 or 1875 or something like that!
also how much of a displacement increase owuld i see?
i wanna get a rough answer!
so like from 1797cc to like 1825cc? would it be more or less? lol just want a rough idea dont care for exact number!
just wanna know its it like 1825 or 1850 or 1875 or something like that!
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Re: b18c high compression & nitrous
Here, play with this for a while: http://www.zealautowerks.com/bseries.html
Who's going to build this engine for you? Most of what you're asking should really be discussed with the person/shop that'll be doing the work for you. You're asking so many wide ranging questions that it makes it really difficult for someone to attempt to put in the amount of time required to answer them properly.
Who's going to build this engine for you? Most of what you're asking should really be discussed with the person/shop that'll be doing the work for you. You're asking so many wide ranging questions that it makes it really difficult for someone to attempt to put in the amount of time required to answer them properly.
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Re: b18c high compression & nitrous
ok lets start here then
does anyone make usdm type r forged .25mm overzied pistons
or should i try to find some aftermarket 10.5:1 forged .25mm oversized pistons?
im sure i could get rough answers for everything ive asked. its kinda only a few questions just asked repedatively! lol
but thanks for your concern and ya im gonna talk to logic motorsports today!
also gonna talk with tom at portflow if i can and bubba at do it dyno!
i seen bubbas civic on spray (me likey alot)
thanks for the time your putting out to help me though! honestly once i have a better knowledge of this is all. ill be in ur boat helping newer people when they need it
think u can answer the piston question though?
does anyone make usdm type r forged .25mm overzied pistons
or should i try to find some aftermarket 10.5:1 forged .25mm oversized pistons?
im sure i could get rough answers for everything ive asked. its kinda only a few questions just asked repedatively! lol
but thanks for your concern and ya im gonna talk to logic motorsports today!
also gonna talk with tom at portflow if i can and bubba at do it dyno!
i seen bubbas civic on spray (me likey alot)
thanks for the time your putting out to help me though! honestly once i have a better knowledge of this is all. ill be in ur boat helping newer people when they need it
think u can answer the piston question though?
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I would look for an aftermarket forged piston that will give you the compression you want. Weisco is just one of many brand options to look at but Logic motorsports can help you out with that too.
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Re: b18c high compression & nitrous
the only thing i didnt quite like about logic motorsports...nothing bad about them...lol max seems great
(i was on the phone when he was arguing withs ome people at a chineese food restruat bc where he parked or some crap....it was comedy)
but i think there are a little over priced from what i was quoted on!
and they told me i could bearly get 210whp with a enterily build head/3" exhuast/pro 2's the works lol!
i laugh at this now bc i know i could make 205whp on stock itr cams
and honestly thanks for your time bc ive been following ur posts and ur pretty knowledged person! more so than me and out of all the big named guys on here, that do n/a 1.8L-2.2L build ur the giving me advice when im sure they could to...but hey to each his own!
but ya weisco seems promising!
and rod wise forged: eagle or crower?
gonna keep the stock stroke basically want a replacement forged rod.
and would i benefit from JE HNS hardened nitrous series pistons rings?
(i was on the phone when he was arguing withs ome people at a chineese food restruat bc where he parked or some crap....it was comedy)
but i think there are a little over priced from what i was quoted on!
and they told me i could bearly get 210whp with a enterily build head/3" exhuast/pro 2's the works lol!
i laugh at this now bc i know i could make 205whp on stock itr cams
and honestly thanks for your time bc ive been following ur posts and ur pretty knowledged person! more so than me and out of all the big named guys on here, that do n/a 1.8L-2.2L build ur the giving me advice when im sure they could to...but hey to each his own!
but ya weisco seems promising!
and rod wise forged: eagle or crower?
gonna keep the stock stroke basically want a replacement forged rod.
and would i benefit from JE HNS hardened nitrous series pistons rings?
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