200hp vr6 GTI's anything to worry about?
10-09-2006, 12:42 PM
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Re: (D-Rob)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by D-Rob »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's only "top-end gearing" as long as it can still accelerate through those ratios.
A Jetta/GTI/R32 may be geared to those speeds, but they will simply run out of power.
The 350Z will hands down walk away from those cars at speeds of 100+mph.
They simply don't have the power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont think it will walk away hard from a R32. Number wise they both run the same time in the 1/4. I know numbers mean nothing, but they also dont lie.
I will still say the jettas and GTI's are geared for higher speeds. I will agree that a 350z will pull away, but thats comparing a sports car vs well a Jetta/GTI hehe. I guess its just like apples and oranges.
For what it is the Jetta/GTI is geared higher. They have the torque to get them off the line and the better gearing up top to help out too. 
A Jetta/GTI/R32 may be geared to those speeds, but they will simply run out of power.
The 350Z will hands down walk away from those cars at speeds of 100+mph.
They simply don't have the power.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I dont think it will walk away hard from a R32. Number wise they both run the same time in the 1/4. I know numbers mean nothing, but they also dont lie.
I will still say the jettas and GTI's are geared for higher speeds. I will agree that a 350z will pull away, but thats comparing a sports car vs well a Jetta/GTI hehe. I guess its just like apples and oranges.
For what it is the Jetta/GTI is geared higher. They have the torque to get them off the line and the better gearing up top to help out too.
10-09-2006, 01:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cnyej1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I dont think it will walk away hard from a R32. Number wise they both run the same time in the 1/4. i know numbers mean nothing, but they also dont lie.
I will still too the jettas and GTI's being geared for higher speeds. I will agree that a 350z will pull away, but thats comparing a plain sports car vs well a Jetta/GTI hehe. I guess its just like apples and oranges. </TD></TR></TABLE>
They run the same standing quarter mile times, yes.
BUT! Look at trap speeds.
VW R32 - 14.2-ish @ like 96mph
Compared to...
Nissan 350 - 14.2-ish @ around 101-102mph.
That, my friend is proof that from a roll the 350Z would eat an R32 for lunch.
The only way the R32 is hitting the same times as the Z car is through stellar traction.
I dont think it will walk away hard from a R32. Number wise they both run the same time in the 1/4. i know numbers mean nothing, but they also dont lie.
I will still too the jettas and GTI's being geared for higher speeds. I will agree that a 350z will pull away, but thats comparing a plain sports car vs well a Jetta/GTI hehe. I guess its just like apples and oranges.
</TD></TR></TABLE>They run the same standing quarter mile times, yes.
BUT! Look at trap speeds.
VW R32 - 14.2-ish @ like 96mph
Compared to...
Nissan 350 - 14.2-ish @ around 101-102mph.
That, my friend is proof that from a roll the 350Z would eat an R32 for lunch.
The only way the R32 is hitting the same times as the Z car is through stellar traction.
10-09-2006, 04:07 PM
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Re: (D-Rob)
Im not gonna bicker back and fourth. In all infinate wisdom I do recgonize that a 350z will pull away, not hard but it will pull eventually. Your slightly off on the trap speeds though. The trap on a R32 has been closer to 100-101mph, and the 1/4 mile in 13.9 with a good driver.
10-09-2006, 09:38 PM
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oh shiiit , d-rob and quickle r back on this thread, from reading the responses it can just be said , depending on the day , depending on the driver and depending on the situations, im sure while were sitting here arguing about this the original poster is out handing the vdub its *** as we speak so lol
10-09-2006, 09:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cnyej1 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im not gonna bicker back and fourth. In all infinate wisdom I do recgonize that a 350z will pull away, not hard but it will pull eventually. Your slightly off on the trap speeds though. The trap on a R32 has been closer to 100-101mph, and the 1/4 mile in 13.9 with a good driver.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Yes. It doesn't really matter. But all I can say is that maybe our measurements for "pulling away" are not the same. Because D-Rob's car that traps 104 mph has had a 350Z with just an INTAKE slightly pull from him at the end of 3rd and through 4th. I can only imagine what a VR6 would do. But I'm sure the R32 can atleast hang there.
EDIT: And it's QUICKEL, Brandon.
Yes. It doesn't really matter. But all I can say is that maybe our measurements for "pulling away" are not the same. Because D-Rob's car that traps 104 mph has had a 350Z with just an INTAKE slightly pull from him at the end of 3rd and through 4th. I can only imagine what a VR6 would do. But I'm sure the R32 can atleast hang there.
EDIT: And it's QUICKEL, Brandon.
10-16-2006, 09:28 PM
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they are all good cars.. but a 350z will no doubt pull away on the top end as it has very close gearing to the R32. the new 350z vs the old 350z... very little difference in power stock vs stock. the new z fittied with the old z's manifold does prove to be a worthy mod and does make more tq throughout the powerbad due to its VVT on exhuast.
08-11-2007, 10:02 AM
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back from the dead HAHA
a lot of misinformation here. my 24 valve VR6 with just a giac chip, cold air intake and cat back dyno'd 192whp/192wtq for about $800 invested. the car would inch out stock 350z's and R32's. i was dead even with my roomates I/E 98 M3.
i would run down RSX-S's with the same $$ invested. typically the only way we evened out was if they had I/E and hondata but by then they would have spent way more $$ to keep up. i raced one with I/H/E and hondata and he made me look stupid
i loved that car but i was way to much $$ to fix when it broke and i hated the 1.8t. so i got a honda
a lot of misinformation here. my 24 valve VR6 with just a giac chip, cold air intake and cat back dyno'd 192whp/192wtq for about $800 invested. the car would inch out stock 350z's and R32's. i was dead even with my roomates I/E 98 M3.
i would run down RSX-S's with the same $$ invested. typically the only way we evened out was if they had I/E and hondata but by then they would have spent way more $$ to keep up. i raced one with I/H/E and hondata and he made me look stupid
i loved that car but i was way to much $$ to fix when it broke and i hated the 1.8t. so i got a honda
08-11-2007, 05:23 PM
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Re: (Jay's EG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jay’s EG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea but how much have you spent to "take them out"?
i spent $800 to get 193whp. a race header alone is more than that</TD></TR></TABLE>
why is this thread back up?
does it matter if he spent more than you? the point is his car would be faster. if you wanna argue about that than im pretty sure a domestic owner will come in here and own you in that.
ive never ran a 200hp VR6 but i have ran my friends 174hp VR6 and i walked it in my stock gsr from a 50 roll with 3 other people in my car and he was by himself. ive ridden in it before and after i got out i was almost positive he would walk but maybe i was just feeling all the torque that i dont have.
i spent $800 to get 193whp. a race header alone is more than that</TD></TR></TABLE>
why is this thread back up?
does it matter if he spent more than you? the point is his car would be faster. if you wanna argue about that than im pretty sure a domestic owner will come in here and own you in that.
ive never ran a 200hp VR6 but i have ran my friends 174hp VR6 and i walked it in my stock gsr from a 50 roll with 3 other people in my car and he was by himself. ive ridden in it before and after i got out i was almost positive he would walk but maybe i was just feeling all the torque that i dont have.
08-11-2007, 05:56 PM
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Re: (Jay's EG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jay’s EG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea but how much have you spent to "take them out"?
i spent $800 to get 193whp. a race header alone is more than that</TD></TR></TABLE>
When you start modding, $$ goes out the window. A slightly modded $5000 (total) 88 Mustang GT would eat your VW for lunch.
Your argument just doesn't hold water.
i spent $800 to get 193whp. a race header alone is more than that</TD></TR></TABLE>
When you start modding, $$ goes out the window. A slightly modded $5000 (total) 88 Mustang GT would eat your VW for lunch.
Your argument just doesn't hold water.
08-11-2007, 07:15 PM
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why you guys geting your patties in a bunch? i'm just saying, the 24v isnt getting the credit it deserves here. the RSX is nice but in my experience its going to take I/H/E just to hang with the 24v with I/C/E, hondata on top of that to pull away, but the VR6 could alway add cams which i think aswers the OP's question which hasnt been answered in 3 pages. if that make you mad, to bad, its the truth.
08-11-2007, 07:44 PM
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Re: (Jay's EG)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Jay’s EG »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why you guys geting your patties in a bunch? i'm just saying, the 24v isnt getting the credit it deserves here. the RSX is nice but in my experience its going to take I/H/E just to hang with the 24v with I/C/E, hondata on top of that to pull away, but the VR6 could alway add cams which i think aswers the OP's question which hasnt been answered in 3 pages. if that make you mad, to bad, its the truth.</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's what you believe, but it's not necessarily the truth. Big difference. And I don't think your handful of experiences is the end-all, be-all of how fast a VR6 is. For all of your stories, there will be just as many other people saying something different.
That's the truth.
It's what you believe, but it's not necessarily the truth. Big difference. And I don't think your handful of experiences is the end-all, be-all of how fast a VR6 is. For all of your stories, there will be just as many other people saying something different.
That's the truth.
08-12-2007, 03:47 AM
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so whats your point? i shouldnt share my experieces? i owned that car a ran several RSX's with it, i think i'm in a good possition to comment on this thread even if its an old thread the info is still there for someone else researching. it just seems now i'm getting heat and your calling me a liar because my experience doesnt fit with the popular opinions here.. whatever, i drive a honda but i'm still going to give credit where credit is due no matter what badge is on the car
08-12-2007, 10:42 AM
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You really didn't need to bump a thread that was almost a year old just to chime in on how fast a VR6 is. Obviously there was some kind of motive there, but this isn't the kill forum.
08-12-2007, 11:22 AM
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the motive was to answer the freakin question after 3 pages of nothing imformative. even if it was 12 months old. someone else might wonder the same thing and find this thread through research and my addition would be the only straight forward answer, thats what forums are for. why do you think i have such little post count? because i find everything through search. i have no reason to embellish the truth about the VR6, i drive a B18 EG. why does it bother you so much? the K20 is still more impressive. 2.0L 4cyl vs. 2.8L 6cyl
08-13-2007, 12:30 PM
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Re: 200hp vr6 GTI's anything to worry about? (RabbitNSI)
bs jetta vr6's are nothing to worry about all they do is chase but cant pass rsx's up never lost to a gti or a vr-6 its all about the driver not ur little turbo member NA IS BEST!!
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