WIXvsFRAM OIL FILTER COMPARISON
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMcb7 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">But wait isnt some Honda Oil filters MADE by Fram? and some by honeywell? if you guys are bashing Fram filters are bad.. then why are oem honda filters good?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Many of the current "Honda" OE branded filters are indeed manufactured by FRAM (used to be Allied Signal, now Honeywell). The better quality OEM ones are made by Filtech. Filtech is a US division of Toyo Roki in Japan. A quick way to tell the difference between the Fram made OEM's and the Filtech made is, Filtech: Part # ending in A01 Fram: Part # ending in A02
Following are a few links showing the quality or lack there of related to the FRAM products:
http://rsx.freewebpage.org/index.htm
You may scoff at it being an RSX link but since Honda suggested us to use the newer smaller RSX filter the above link can be directly related to our cars.
http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/fram.shtml
Here is another awesome link showing specs and many pics of all sorts of avaiable filters cut apart to expose everything there is to know about them:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/for...94615
Modified by 1GreyTeg at 1:34 PM 12/7/2005
Many of the current "Honda" OE branded filters are indeed manufactured by FRAM (used to be Allied Signal, now Honeywell). The better quality OEM ones are made by Filtech. Filtech is a US division of Toyo Roki in Japan. A quick way to tell the difference between the Fram made OEM's and the Filtech made is, Filtech: Part # ending in A01 Fram: Part # ending in A02
Following are a few links showing the quality or lack there of related to the FRAM products:
http://rsx.freewebpage.org/index.htm
You may scoff at it being an RSX link but since Honda suggested us to use the newer smaller RSX filter the above link can be directly related to our cars.
http://www.tobycreek.org/oil_filters/fram.shtml
Here is another awesome link showing specs and many pics of all sorts of avaiable filters cut apart to expose everything there is to know about them:
http://www.ford-trucks.com/for...94615
Modified by 1GreyTeg at 1:34 PM 12/7/2005
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honestly i have nothing but good things to come from my 4 years of useage with the fram filters, next oil change im changine to purolator filters....they are cheaper and better
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Re: (Crx Jimmy)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crx Jimmy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">purolator also makes filters for mobil 1, so if you are paying more for a mobil1 filter they are the same as the blue purolators </TD></TR></TABLE>
thats right there is good to know
thats right there is good to know
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Re: WIXvsFRAM OIL FILTER COMPARISON (Splat)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Splat »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Looks like mainly independent shops carry WIX filters. Is there a Walker Auto near you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Try NAPA. WIX makes their filters.
Looks like mainly independent shops carry WIX filters. Is there a Walker Auto near you?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Try NAPA. WIX makes their filters.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crx Jimmy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">purolator also makes filters for mobil 1, so if you are paying more for a mobil1 filter they are the same as the blue purolators </TD></TR></TABLE>
i believe the purolator, mobil1, and k&n oil filters are made by champion labs
i believe the purolator, mobil1, and k&n oil filters are made by champion labs
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Re: WIXvsFRAM OIL FILTER COMPARISON (Renegade)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Renegade »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">For those of you who are wondering why a large to small filter and vice versa. The theory is that a smaller filter would raise the oil pressure and in return yielding better VTEC activation, *shrugs shoulders*, the other side of the argument is a larger filter will give more area which will help lower the oil temperature. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Oil Pan -> Oil Pump -> Filter -> Engine
If the filter was restrictive then there would be a larger pressure drop across it. You are looking for the least restrictive filter that can still filter out particles of a set micron size. From your post above it sounds like you are implying that a smaller filter would raise pressure due to being more restrictive than say a larger filter. But this is the opposite of what is happening. The filter can't generate more pressure than the oil pump puts out.
You can't make the assumption, based on the outside dimensions of a given filter, that one filter is more or less restrictive than another.
Oil Pan -> Oil Pump -> Filter -> Engine
If the filter was restrictive then there would be a larger pressure drop across it. You are looking for the least restrictive filter that can still filter out particles of a set micron size. From your post above it sounds like you are implying that a smaller filter would raise pressure due to being more restrictive than say a larger filter. But this is the opposite of what is happening. The filter can't generate more pressure than the oil pump puts out.
You can't make the assumption, based on the outside dimensions of a given filter, that one filter is more or less restrictive than another.
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Re: WIXvsFRAM OIL FILTER COMPARISON (SMSP)
I did not think too much on teh higher oil pressure theory, I like the bigger filter better. I just posted that so people get an idea on why there is a comparison or debate between the smaller and larger filter. I bought all 3 I though people would like to know the difference in case anyone has a preference.
For me now is a debate between the remote filter system with canton and their drop in filters, or someone elses reusable filter media. Pull it out wash it out and stick back in. Oil changes everymonth hurt the pocket. If I can save some money without out sacrificing the motor ( main concern) with a dirty filter and unfiltered oil, then that would be the route I'd like to take.
At this point the Canton system looks good. No pressure loss and no bypassign fo the filter. All oil is filtered.
For me now is a debate between the remote filter system with canton and their drop in filters, or someone elses reusable filter media. Pull it out wash it out and stick back in. Oil changes everymonth hurt the pocket. If I can save some money without out sacrificing the motor ( main concern) with a dirty filter and unfiltered oil, then that would be the route I'd like to take.
At this point the Canton system looks good. No pressure loss and no bypassign fo the filter. All oil is filtered.
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