I know Tein suspension is great on the track but how is this system for daily driving? i have a turbocharged ITR and im wondering with this kit should i use my factory pillow mounts or the Tein pillow-ball mounts for the smoother ride...any experience out there with this system? trying to have her ready for the 2011 ITR EXPO!!!

 

use the tein...they wont affect your ride...but if your worry about smooth ride get the tein ss...they are very comftable and they can be stiff enough to push the car hard..

 

some locals i know that have run the Flex feel that it's too soft with the rates that it comes with.

the Mono Flex is a better setup straight out of the box but these are quite pricey coilovers at about $2500 new.

i have seen two of them blow though after a track day and daily driving on a friend's 4-door Si (8th gen civic).

 

only problem is they dont make the tein ss for the ITR...Only the FLEX, Mono FLEX, HR...etc r available...i found the flex for 1300+shipping...thats a deal for me...aackny other experience out there with the FLEX kit on a ITR? Track and DD?

 

i just bought the buddyclub race specs after doing a ton of research, very competitive price but ive seen much more positive feedback on the buddyclubs. if DD the car get a setup that comes with pillow upper mounts/camber plates it will make your life a hell of alot easier. or just go with the tried and true koni yellows/ground controls...

 

koni/gc or amr are your two best bets. you can customize rates to your liking and spend a lot less than the flex. a few weeks ago there was a post in the suspension forum about AMR having a sale that put them barely above koni/gc in cost

 

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i would have bought the koni/gcs but my car iz boosted and right now its gettin built for more boost...so i need a real coilover...not a shock/spring or coilsleeve&spring/shock combo...im trying to put the car on twistiez/cicuit not the drag strip...the real horsepower makers out there have all said it will make my life easier with a full coilover set and solid upper pillow mounts

 

Please enlighten us why this "would" be true and what facts do you have to back this up?

 

hey Masshimaro u sound like u kno a lil sumthin...my friend Greg blew the rear struts of a flex kit riding dumped at the dragon tale up in Tennessee...but this is a 600whp Ap1

 

Easy..i have a friend with a friend with a Itr(a spoon junkie)running the Koni/GCs makin a lil over 200whp...he said the car rode great whether it be DD, drag strip and mountains...he then applied a dry Zex kit(50shot) and started ruuning low 13s...a couple months after the bottle the suspension got ruff...bumps felt harder as time went on...and he doesnt ride dumped becuz of his high dollar spoon headers

 

have you noticed that koni/gc is the single most popular sub $1000 setup in the road race forum

have you noticed tein basically welds a sleeve on a shock and creates your "true coilover"

have you noticed koni has a lifetime warranty on the shocks so if one blows you get it replaced?

seriously, you sound like a bad marketing ad right out of some ricer magazine

 

I have mono flex coils on my wrx and they arent too rough on the street but if your going ss are better for street use. I have them on my civic sedan. The mono flex are a little rough but not all that bad way better than any shock spring set up i have used

 

tell me this...Do u even own a Itr? And if so how much power do u make? if it aint over 200whp then im not intrested...Hell i rode plain skunk2 coilovers on my factory Itr shocks slammed for like 3yrs and it rode alright untill i boosted...the more i drove the worst the ride got..and i did very mild street racing becuz i was still running the stock (USDM) ITR compression ratio 10:6:1...

 

ive heard that the mono flex is rough too but I bet it shines when u need it...

 

This thread is full of win

 

you have no clue how spring rate, bound and rebound effect a car's handling or stability in regards to cornering, braking or power production.

read as much as you can find in the suspension forum. you're just ignorant and if you're here to just rant about what you think you know you'll just do what you've always done.

 

i dont need a forum of peoples opinions on spring rate and rebound...i jus wanna kno if anybody with a ITR has ridden on the flex and which upper mounts they used stock or Tein...dont get ur pantyz in a knot now...And remeber the Koni/GCs are the single most popular sub $1000 setup becuz its CHEAP!!! Cheap doesnt go on the ITR, why do think most of the aftermarket junk that they sell now&days is equivalent to factory spec ITR...if u make power and u want to use it then cheap aint the way to go...my engine builders and tuners have all said this to me over&over

 

 

this is funny

 

MOTON FTW!!!!

But i have Tein Flex's on my '97 R now and they're fine for the street, And I just installed Tein Flex's on a '05 IS300 and by no means are they too stiff for the street

 

If you're looking for suspension to perform dual duty between the street and track, the real answer is no coil-over. Ex-owner here and have been through OEM suspension, Pro-Kit, PIC Select, and Spoon N1 Damper. None of the coil-over setups are what I'd call "acceptable" on the street. They're all horribly uncomfortable.

For a street setup that will perform well on the odd autocross or lapping day, a spring/shock combo is the way to go for acceptable ride quality. Then, the sway bars is where you get your cornering performance from. When the car is on the street driving in a straight line, you will appreciate the progressive spring rates. When the car enters a corner, the sway bars drastically stiffen the chassis and provide a flat, aggressive turn-in and exit. Just make sure you have enough tire to handle it.

The Type R is a finicky car when it comes to suspension upgrades. Stiffer coil-overs in the hands of most people is a recipe to go slow. Power means squat in this respect, especially on the circuit. The only situation in which I would go with an aggressive coil-over on the R is if it is a dedicated track car running R-compound tires. Now, lots of people run street tires and coil-overs with varying results, but it is always a compromise in practicality. Just because you install a trick set of Tein Coil-overs, does not in any sense mean you've upgraded cornering performance at all. Chances are you'd be quicker around the track with your OEM setup. There are just too many other factors involved in suspension tuning. There is no "magic bullet" solution.

Take this FWIW, but this is coming from someone who has track time with multiple Type R's over the 200WHP mark. There are many others on this forum with way more experience as well.

 

OP...just be quiet and listen to those who know what they are talking about, because it seems you do not.

HP really has little to do with suspension tuning. An ITR will only go through a turn "x" mph (all other factors being equal), regardless if you are making 150hp or 300hp.

BTW--Tein SS, Flex, etc are all pieces of ****. I don't care what you've read in SuperStreet or what your homies have told you, but they are inferior to a Koni/Ground Control setup.

Those are the facts. Whether you choose to believe them or not is up to you.

 

OP, is Expo your first event? If so, focus on learning and having fun, not trying to go as fast as possible.

 

damn...y so many people gettin angry? i jus wanted to kno if the tein pillow-ball mount or the stock ITR pillow mount gives the smoother ride...thats all...im not looking to by a coilover b/c i already bought the flex kit...jus lookin for sum advice from sum fellow Type-R owners...and yes i kno the spring/shock combo gives the smoothest ride