tein flex kit
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damn...y so many people gettin angry? i jus wanted to kno if the tein pillow-ball mount or the stock ITR pillow mount gives the smoother ride...thats all...im not looking to by a coilover b/c i already bought the flex kit...jus lookin for sum advice from sum fellow Type-R owners...and yes i kno the spring/shock combo gives the smoothest ride
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are you sure Tein SS dont work for ITR? i'm trying to find out before i drop money on a set.
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Suspension is all about the shock valving, period. Tein can put 55 different adjustments on their bodies and valving, but until they actually put a good shock on their lower-end coilover kits, no one will really care.
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There is nothing wrong with the Koni/GC setup. You really cant judge anything for yourself until you've actually used/tested it before. Something that is smooth to me might be shitty to others or vice versa. I find Koni/Gc to be one of the best customizable sets ever.
Ive been through Tein, Skunk 2, Function & Form, & PIC
Ive tested Koni/GC on a friends Integra and it is definitely something i'd recommend. IMO "Tein" is great too depending on your setup, but overrated but thats probably just me.
If you want performance, your just going to have to sacrifice quality. If you truly want quality, Nothing beats OEM
Listen to "98 ITR", he knows what he is talking about.
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You should be polite, these people are here to help you and answer your question. If you don't need help on spring rates you wouldn't be here at all because believe it or not, spring rates do effect ride quality. If your just going to shoot down everyone's opinion then why create a thread at all?
There is nothing wrong with the Koni/GC setup. You really cant judge anything for yourself until you've actually used/tested it before. Something that is smooth to me might be shitty to others or vice versa. I find Koni/Gc to be one of the best customizable sets ever.
Ive been through Tein, Skunk 2, Function & Form, & PIC
Ive tested Koni/GC on a friends Integra and it is definitely something i'd recommend. IMO "Tein" is great too depending on your setup, but overrated but thats probably just me.
If you want performance, your just going to have to sacrifice quality. If you truly want quality, Nothing beats OEM
Listen to "98 ITR", he knows what he is talking about.
There is nothing wrong with the Koni/GC setup. You really cant judge anything for yourself until you've actually used/tested it before. Something that is smooth to me might be shitty to others or vice versa. I find Koni/Gc to be one of the best customizable sets ever.
Ive been through Tein, Skunk 2, Function & Form, & PIC
Ive tested Koni/GC on a friends Integra and it is definitely something i'd recommend. IMO "Tein" is great too depending on your setup, but overrated but thats probably just me.
If you want performance, your just going to have to sacrifice quality. If you truly want quality, Nothing beats OEM
Listen to "98 ITR", he knows what he is talking about.
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I'm not sure how you haven't gathered this fact from the thread...but the Tein SS and Flex setups are poor choices. You can get a better shock and more flexibile setup by going with Koni/GC. And they are cheaper, too.
Suspension is all about the shock valving, period. Tein can put 55 different adjustments on their bodies and valving, but until they actually put a good shock on their lower-end coilover kits, no one will really care.
Suspension is all about the shock valving, period. Tein can put 55 different adjustments on their bodies and valving, but until they actually put a good shock on their lower-end coilover kits, no one will really care.
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If you're looking for suspension to perform dual duty between the street and track, the real answer is no coil-over. Ex-owner here and have been through OEM suspension, Pro-Kit, PIC Select, and Spoon N1 Damper. None of the coil-over setups are what I'd call "acceptable" on the street. They're all horribly uncomfortable.
For a street setup that will perform well on the odd autocross or lapping day, a spring/shock combo is the way to go for acceptable ride quality. Then, the sway bars is where you get your cornering performance from. When the car is on the street driving in a straight line, you will appreciate the progressive spring rates. When the car enters a corner, the sway bars drastically stiffen the chassis and provide a flat, aggressive turn-in and exit. Just make sure you have enough tire to handle it.
The Type R is a finicky car when it comes to suspension upgrades. Stiffer coil-overs in the hands of most people is a recipe to go slow. Power means squat in this respect, especially on the circuit. The only situation in which I would go with an aggressive coil-over on the R is if it is a dedicated track car running R-compound tires. Now, lots of people run street tires and coil-overs with varying results, but it is always a compromise in practicality. Just because you install a trick set of Tein Coil-overs, does not in any sense mean you've upgraded cornering performance at all. Chances are you'd be quicker around the track with your OEM setup. There are just too many other factors involved in suspension tuning. There is no "magic bullet" solution.
Take this FWIW, but this is coming from someone who has track time with multiple Type R's over the 200WHP mark. There are many others on this forum with way more experience as well.
For a street setup that will perform well on the odd autocross or lapping day, a spring/shock combo is the way to go for acceptable ride quality. Then, the sway bars is where you get your cornering performance from. When the car is on the street driving in a straight line, you will appreciate the progressive spring rates. When the car enters a corner, the sway bars drastically stiffen the chassis and provide a flat, aggressive turn-in and exit. Just make sure you have enough tire to handle it.
The Type R is a finicky car when it comes to suspension upgrades. Stiffer coil-overs in the hands of most people is a recipe to go slow. Power means squat in this respect, especially on the circuit. The only situation in which I would go with an aggressive coil-over on the R is if it is a dedicated track car running R-compound tires. Now, lots of people run street tires and coil-overs with varying results, but it is always a compromise in practicality. Just because you install a trick set of Tein Coil-overs, does not in any sense mean you've upgraded cornering performance at all. Chances are you'd be quicker around the track with your OEM setup. There are just too many other factors involved in suspension tuning. There is no "magic bullet" solution.
Take this FWIW, but this is coming from someone who has track time with multiple Type R's over the 200WHP mark. There are many others on this forum with way more experience as well.
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