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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 05:23 AM
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I'm looking at all of my options on what I can do with my '96 GSR. I saw that the Type-R Integra has a B18C5 motor and the GSR has a B18C1 motor. What are the main differences? Is it possible to swap some parts to have basically the same thing as the B18C5?
Old Feb 17, 2008 | 05:28 AM
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Front Seats
Rear Seats
5 Lug
Bumpers
Strut Bars
Crank is lighter
Cams are different
LSD Tranny
No Sunroof in Type-R's
No side moldings in type-R
Rear Spoiler
Type R Stickers
Fake Carbon Interior
Different Floormats

Type-R>GSR

Theres more but thats what i can think of right now
Old Feb 17, 2008 | 05:50 AM
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Overview

The Integra Type R features an advanced 1.8-liter, 195-horsepower, dual overhead cam, 16-valve inline 4-cylinder engine equipped with the Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC) system pioneered in the Acura NSX.

Its additional horsepower, which is 25 more than the 170-horsepower Acura Integra GS-R, is the result of key technological achievements such as:
High-compression, low-friction pistons;
High-performance camshafts and valve gear;
Larger throttle body and single-port intake manifold;
Hand-polished intake and exhaust ports;

High-volume induction and exhaust system.

The engine also features Programmed Fuel Injection (PGM-FI), a highly rigid crankshaft with eight full balance weights, a crankshaft reinforcing bridge, an oil cooling system and oil jet piston cooling, twin-spring intake and exhaust valves, a highly rigid integrated aluminum die-cast engine stiffener, and a number of other technologies to increase performance while maintaining reliability and durability, along with smooth operation.

To get the most out of the engine's added horsepower, the Type R also features a close-ratio, 5-speed manual transmission and a new limited slip differential. The development emphasis was placed on dramatically increasing performance at high rpm. This emphasis resulted in an engine with a significantly different character than the Integra GS-R, further reinforcing the Type R's image of a limited production, ultra-high performance sports coupe.

Putting out 195 horsepower at 8000 rpm, and 130 lbs-ft of torque at 7300 rpm, the Type R engine is the most powerful normally aspirated mass-produced automobile engine per liter ever produced (108 horsepower per liter) for the United States. And its relatively long stroke and high redline give it the highest piston speed of any automobile engine in the world, even faster than the legendary World Championship Honda Formula One and IndyCar engines.

Pistons and Connecting Rods

Exclusive pistons and connecting rods have been developed for the Type R. The high-pressure die cast piston crown has been reshaped to increase the compression ratio to 10.6:1 and valve pockets deepened to accommodate the increased valve lift and duration of the Type R. The piston skirt is coated with molybdenum to minimize friction and allow it to withstand high-rpm operation, while specially designed oil paths have been machined into the underside of the piston to provide additional lubrication to the piston pin.

Extreme care was taken in the forging and machining of the connecting rods to ensure each engine of a precisely matched set of connecting rods. Like in the GS-R, the rods are constructed of special high-strength steel for a rigid yet lightweight component. Extremely accurate machining of the Type R connecting rod minimizes variation between parts. Connecting rod bolt elongation has been strictly controlled for uniform fastening force. This is achieved through manually assembling each and every connecting rod for the Type R, and the result is a significant reduction of fastening force variance

The combination of lightweight pistons and connecting rods helps to reduce reciprocating inertia and enhance throttle response significantly.

Engine Block and Crankshaft

The Type R utilizes a pressure die cast aluminum alloy block with cast-iron cylinder liners for light weight and maximum rigidity. Its highly rigid crankshaft is made of forged, high-strength steel with eight full balance weights to reduce vibration at high rpm by 20 percent. The journals of the crankshaft also feature a
special micro-polished surface finish for reduced friction and increased durability.

Cylinder Head, Valves and Camshafts

Cylinder head design for the Type R is a double overhead camshaft, four valves-per-cylinder configuration which incorporates the exclusive VTEC system. The Type R engine utilizes the latest combustion technology to provide a combination of fuel efficiency and power. Because of the low surface-to-volume area of the chamber, minimal surface area is exposed to the heat of combustion and more heat is retained in the expanding gases, resulting in increased thermal efficiency. And the generous "squish" area around the combustion chamber yields increased gas turbulence, faster flame propagation, and even better efficiency.

Extensive modifications of the cylinder head were undertaken improve performance. This also involves hand-polishing of the intake and exhaust ports near the valve seat area. In addition to hand polishing the ports to improve flow, special lightweight intake valves are also fitted. These valves feature a thinner shaft to reduce weight and increase flow. The head of the valve is also lightened to further reduce valvetrain weight. These modifications net a 12 percent weight reduction of the intake valves, allowing the engine to rev higher. These lighter intake valves help extend the rpm range of the Type R engine by an additional 200 rpm.

Special high-performance dual intake valve springs with an oval-shaped cross section are utilized to allow the use of high-performance camshafts for increased flow at high rpm. The unique oval shape allows a stronger valve spring to be fitted in the same area as a conventional spring. Conventional dual high-performance valve springs are used on the exhaust valves. Camshafts fitted to the Integra Type R are longer duration with higher lift to help increase engine breathing and top-end horsepower. At high engine speeds, valve lift on the intake side is increased by 0.9 mm, and on the exhaust side by 1.1 mm, compared to the GS-R. The valve timing is extended an additional 10 degrees on the intake side and 8 degrees on the exhaust side.

Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control (VTEC) System

The VTEC system, first pioneered in the Acura NSX, works similar performance magic in the Integra Type R. As the performance of the NSX has already amply demonstrated, VTEC is an innovative solution to an age-old automotive engineering problem. It elegantly solves the trade-off between tuning an engine for either high-end horsepower or low-end torque. With VTEC, Acura engineers no longer have to compromise between the two. VTEC-equipped engines can have the best of both.

The VTEC system uses three cam lobes and three corresponding rocker arms for each pair of valves.The VTEC system operates on both the intake and exhaust valves. The two outer cam lobes have a profile that optimizes low-speed torque and response. The middle lobe has a high-lift, longer-duration profile that is designed to optimize high-end horsepower.

The changeover point between low lift and high lift in the Type R is 5700 rpm (compared to 4400 rpm on the GS-R), for excellent midrange torque. This makes the Type R engine responsive under all operating conditions, and especially when going from part-throttle, steady-state cruising to full throttle.

Throttle Body & Intake Manifold

In the interests of high rpm, high output and weight reduction, the Type R utilizes a large-diameter throttle body and exclusive single-port intake manifold. The throttle bore has been increased by 2 mm to 62 mm to allow for increased intake flow.

The cast aluminum intake manifold features a large-diameter, single intake runner for each cylinder with a short, direct path to the cylinder head for maximum high-rpm efficiency. The single-port design also results in a 3.2 kg weight savings. Also, the fuel injectors point almost directly toward the center of the intake valves, helping to reduce fuel condensation on the intake port walls and improving driveability and engine response. To ensure a large amount of cool, fresh intake air, the air inlet has been moved from the engine compartment to an area behind the left-front fender.

To substantially increase flow, the intake runners have increased 7 mm in
diameter from 35 mm to 42 mm.

Oil Jet Piston Cooling

To help ensure long-term durability and reliability, the Type R engine uses an oil jet cooling system. A jet of pressurized engine oil is directed to the underside of the piston to help dissipate the extreme heat generated during sustained high rpm operation. This technology has proven itself in Formula One and other top-level racing engines.

Engine Oil Cooler

To maintain optimum engine oil temperature, the Type R features an aluminum oil cooler for maximum heat dissipation and thermal efficiency. The aluminum cooler is mounted on the engine block.

Surface-Oriented Crystal Bearing Material

The use of a surface-oriented crystal bearing material was pioneered in Formula One racing and has been adapted for use in the Type R engine. Unlike the surface of conventional bearing material, the crystal bearing surface has molecules oriented into a pyramid shape. This surface traps a layer of oil and holds it far better than conventional bearing surfaces, reducing friction and enhancing reliability.

Exhaust System

A major contributor to the Type R's ability to generate 195 horsepower from only 1.8 liters displacement is its highly efficient exhaust system. The exhaust flow rate has been increased by 30 percent over the Integra GS-R model thanks to a number of improvements. Starting with a large-diameter Tri-Y header system, the individual head pipes gently converge into a tapered collector to provide smooth flow with minimum obstruction. The stainless steel header connects to an exhaust system with significantly increased pipe diameters, the addition of a third exhaust chamber, and a performance-oriented muffler with a large NSX-style exhaust tip.

5-Speed Manual Transmission

The main design goals of the Type R close-ratio transmission were to take full advantage of the additional high-rpm power and provide smooth, seamless shifting.

The close-ratio transmission used in the Type R model features different ratios, bearing design, and clutch than the GS-R . The differences were necessary to handle the higher output of the Type R engine and to deliver smooth, progressive acceleration.

Like other Integra models, the Type R features a short-stroke shift linkage of exceptional rigidity. The system approaches the quality feel and short stroke of the Acura NSX shift linkage system.

For improved throttle response, the Type R utilizes a special lightweight flywheel coupled with a heavy-duty, hydraulically actuated clutch.
The Type R also employs a uniquely integrated aluminum die-cast engine stiffener for improved engine-to-transmission fastening rigidity to cope with additional engine output and high rpm. Vibration is reduced 22% compared to the traditional separate fore and aft fastening systems.

The Type R, like all Integra models, features equal-length halfshafts, which virtually eliminate torque steer.

Helical Limited-Slip Differential

Working in combination with a suspension setting designed to further improve front-wheel grip, the Type R adopts a torque-sensitive helical type limited slip differential for both improved traction and reduced understeer in high-cornering load situations. The helical gear generates repelling force in proportion to driving torque. This repelling force, in turn, pushes the pinion gear toward the differential gear casing, thus limiting the differential effect. Compared to viscous coupling-type limited slip differentials, helical limited slip differentials offer a more responsive, proactive torque transfer. This allows improved traction not only when exiting tight corners, but also when on slippery or uneven (undulated) road surfaces.

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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 05:55 AM
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Old Feb 17, 2008 | 09:12 AM
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damn.. nice write up ^^^
Old Feb 17, 2008 | 09:19 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by iheartintegras &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">damn.. nice write up ^^^</TD></TR></TABLE>

I know. Saved it to my word pad for future reference
Old Feb 17, 2008 | 09:38 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Doostur &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I know. Saved it to my word pad for future reference </TD></TR></TABLE>
Cause you know somebody else will be a long next week (or sooner...) asking the same question
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ep1dem1c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Front Seats
Rear Seats
5 Lug
Bumpers
Strut Bars
Crank is lighter
Cams are different
LSD Tranny
No Sunroof in Type-R's
No side moldings in type-R
Rear Spoiler
Type R Stickers
Fake Carbon Interior
Different Floormats

Type-R&gt;GSR

Theres more but thats what i can think of right now</TD></TR></TABLE>

How are the bumpers different? They're all the same
Old Feb 17, 2008 | 11:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ep1dem1c &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Front Seats
Rear Seats
5 Lug
Bumpers
Strut Bars
Crank is lighter
Cams are different
LSD Tranny
No Sunroof in Type-R's
No side moldings in type-R
Rear Spoiler
Type R Stickers
Fake Carbon Interior
Different Floormats

Type-R&gt;GSR

Theres more but thats what i can think of right now</TD></TR></TABLE>

The crank is heavier in the Type R due to the counter weights.
Old Feb 17, 2008 | 11:22 AM
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nice writeup
Old Feb 17, 2008 | 11:23 AM
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yeah<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bradstard &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

The crank is heavier in the Type R due to the counter weights. </TD></TR></TABLE> Rims and Flywheel are lighter.

Enough that i don't want a LS or GSR as an integra......Had a DC4 shell and ITR DC2 shells down to nothing and looked at everything.... DC2 has a lot more body stamping and metal then the rear section of the DC4=From the B pillar back.

DC2 ITR LS/GSR
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This forum is going downhill. What happened to the days of page after page of cat pics instead of concise, knowledgable answers. Damn you people
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The cats are a big help with these type of questions......
Old Feb 19, 2008 | 09:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cmdr430 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Hand-polished intake and exhaust ports;

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I believe they stopped doing the porting by hand in 98 since the machine can do a better job and it's cheaper.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ******* &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I believe they stopped doing the porting by hand in 98 since the machine can do a better job and it's cheaper.</TD></TR></TABLE>

they did stop ....it is also in the Type R legends video that they switched to machines

I just copied and pasted from Honda's official news site...

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the vtec hits harder in the ITR.
Old Feb 20, 2008 | 11:57 PM
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R=Big Bro.
GSR=Little Bro.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 05:13 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JOHN WAYNE &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the vtec hits harder in the ITR.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is just because you have the ported JDM VTECH solenoid.
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oh please...don't act like you don't have one either...
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The Type-R is the closest to JDM car ever sold in america

red badges
black seats/red stitching
model number
b18c5 higher compression then GS-R
performance exhaust
ect..

and I'm almost 100% sure that the type-r shell differs from the GS/RS, LS, and GS-R shells.
Old Feb 21, 2008 | 05:53 AM
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yo CRVRX i read the article in turbo magazine and did a school magazine article report on it haha i bought the magazine just so i could read the article on the car, sick car



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