alright, i got someone to double check my work on my timing, well i just checked it and so did they and we got the same thing. it was at 10 degrees btdc. we then moved it back to 16 btdc and something wierd happened. before(10 btdc), in 1st gear, vtec would be pretty loud. now(16btdc), it's gotten quieter, but vtec in 2nd has gotten louder. I find this a little bit wierd. can someone explain the change in the noise level of vtec in 1st and 2nd gear? thanks. just to remind y'all, i have a 95 gsr. thanks again ^_^