yep

Hey guys, Tommy_Gunns sells these kits. If you want the exact same thing as the Sun, but at a much better cost, get one from him

*they do work* I've talked to many a car owner who has installed them (not only on Integras), and noticed a huge difference.

 

Also this:



Copper will always have lower resistance than steel or copper - no "special technology" required. Increasing the gauge will further lower the resistance. So I don't think Sun has any extraordinary technology. The "spiral" wire geometry is sometimes used in high end audio cable to lower inductance, but that's with positive and negative leads being spiraled together. Grounds flow one way (or, at least they're supposed to ).

 

Has anyone contacted Sun auto? I sent them an email 2 weeks ago and they never replied. Just wondering if anyone has purchased anything from them. Too lazy to call their phone number.

 

i pm'ed tommy_guns about his kit that he makes when i saw his ad about his kit for sale. I asked him if i can recieve more info and all he said was "sales pending, i think i have it sold..." umm, ok. IF anybody has bought his kit or something similar like this Sun Hyper Ground System...i would definately like to see some pics of how people ran and grounded the wires, where, etc. much appreciated

Jason

 

the new super street has a good tech on the grounding points. they tell you each vital groundpoint to ground and where to ground it to. The one they use is the sun auto one.

 

anybody have dyno's that arent made by the people trying to sell the product?

 

this is very interesting...

 

...and please understand that I'm not saying that it definitely won't make a difference, just that I haven't seen anything that proves to me that it's more effective than "plain" wire. My point is that they could just that facts can be skewed so that the product seems more effective than it really is.

 

that guy you were arguing with probably works for sun or something. there could be many variables behind the dynos. an explanation that comes to mind is yes, if the wires on a grounding system have been w/ the car for 100k, replacing them w/ any new system would give you a couple of HP back. theres really no need to argue about this..shxt, when denso iridium spark plugs came out everyone was on their nutz. if this guy really thinks that replacing the grounding wires is gonna give him 20hp to the wheels, let him be. personally i don't buy it.

 

Ah, the pain of actually knowing a thing or two about electronics. So few people realize....

 

oh well. its not our job to convince them otherwise. i should start up something like sun grounding systems myself. ill be a damn millionaire off a product that doesnt even do shxt.

 

Here is my opinion on the wires. First of all the ground on a Honda does suck and the oxidizing of the wires will severely raise the resistance of the wire. In high end audio systems one inch of wire is suppose to be cut off every year to get rid of the oxidized wire.

Most of these thoughts come from audio and I assume the same has to do with electrical equipment but I am not sure: 1) If wires made no difference at all then why is there such a big market for Monster Cable and Kimber cable??? 2) A system is only as good as its weakest link! 3) Different winding techniques will yield less RF noise and better current flow. 4) The larger the gauge the better the current will flow, you can go overboard though.

These all have to do with audio but I would assume if you get better wires you will see a small difference! I say small difference because I could tell a difference in better wires but the speakers and the AV unit still make the most difference same as the motor!

 

Well...an inch a year seems excessive. In certain extreme cases I have heard a large amount of added noise in an audio signal. That stuff was pretty well shot, tho. The wire I use (AudioQuest) doesn't even change color noticeably. I wonder if solid copper resists oxidation better than stranded.

For any one who's curious, you should check out AudioQuest's site. They have some interesting info there. A bit heady perhaps, but interesting.

 

ok.. i havent been on this thing for a long time.. been spending most of my time with niketalk.com and new shoes.. time to get focused on my car again..... i will put the wires on as soon as possible and tell you if i feel any difference.. for just wait.. i will post pics also.. so everyone can see how nice they are.. as for dynos, i dont have one..thats all for now......

yons1

 

I made my own this weekend and it really works!!! My car starts faster and it runs better. Don't expect huge power gains from this but I did notice some. But it really works!! The best part is that I only spent 15 bucks.

 

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lol

 

Good places to ground your engine-

~your tranny
~battery
~throttle body
~alternator
~cylinder head
~ and the block

I went a little crazy and kinda grounded everything i saw... even my headlights. lol

 

IMO this type of mod is only going to show performance improvement if the stock system is in real bad shap. Also if you have a heavily modified vehicle you will see better results because the ground system is supposed to help ur car run more effeciently.

 

i hope everyone on here understands why the shielding is on the negative side. your battery flows through the ground to the device and back through the positive cable. i wont post any proof yet because i want to see all the dumbasses post their intelligence first. electrons travel from negative to positive. doesnt make sense. neither does changing form positive ground 50 years ago. it saves the amount of wiring in a vehicle by about 80 percent.

 

I 've heard good things about grounding kits, HKS makes a kit also, called CircleEarth which connects to the negative terminal of ur batt. and looks kick ***...

 

pics would help....sorry for the late post

 

I'm going to rig a kit up for my DA, if only to replace the 13yr old grounds on there now ... I'm sure if I notice a difference, it'll be due to replacing the old oxidized existing grounds ... I was also thinking to throw some silicone on the actual ground points (after sanding) to prevent oxidation, as I've noticed those spots tend to oxidize rather quickly ...

 

anyone know the cheapest place to buy some?

 

I bought my ground kit on ebay for 30 bucks shipped

 

I Inquired about these hyper ground sets at a local tuning shop, and they said that it was absolute horsesh*t. They have a dyno in their shop, and they dynoed 2 of their cars with it, and two of their cars without it, and it made NO GAINS whatsover. I was actually gonna buy them and the saleguy said "I wouldnt even wanna sell you those cause they are absolute crap" Thats pretty bad when the guy who is supposed to try to make money off of you tells you that he doesnt want to take your money for a sh*tty product.