whats up people...
sorry...tryed searchin but still a little lost

planning out suspension options for a 3rd gen. Dont quite understand the rate of a spring...could somebody break it down for me. In threads i saw all kinds of numbers thrown out for various applications.

planin for daily driver, ocasional track.
want something that will be an improvement to handling and responce, not jus for lowered appearance.

if you guys know a link to a thread covering jus link me.

thanks


Modified by ansay at 5:42 AM 5/7/2004

 

a spring rate is measured in force required to compress the spring a certain distance... In the US of A, we measure that in pounds per inch. Say a spring has a spring rate of 200 lbs/in (pounds per inch), then it takes 200 lbs to compress the spring 1 inch. For racing, the higher the better since the goal is to keep the car level, so you get a high spring rate to keep the car from leaning.

Now, springs are funny things. There are things called progressive springs, where the spring rate increases as it's compressed. If you look at a spring, look at the coils. If they are evenly spaced up and down the spring, it's a linear spring, meaning that it will have a constant spring rate through it's compression. If the coils start close together, then space out as you look down the spring, it's progressive, meaning that it will start out soft, then the spring rate increases as the spring compresses.

The progressive spring is best, IMO, for daily driving. This is because you can have a soft, cushy ride just cruising around, but once you get aggressive, the spring rate essentially goes up with the spring compression and handling will improve.

Hope that all of this is right. If not, hopefully somebody will correct me

 

thanks man mahalos

kinda figured thas what it was
any recomended rates for the daily driver/occasional track car....increasing the performance of the car. saw a lot of stuff on ground control coils overs + koni yellows.

any help is appreciated

 

I have ground control coilovers with 350 lb/in springs in front and 280 lb/in in back, and paired up with Tokiko Illuminas, the ride is great. It's a little rough sometimes, but it's bearable. They're linear-rate, so they not cushy like Eibach prokits. I would recommend the OTS (off-the-shelf) ground controls, but you may want a stiffer rear, just to help the car rotate more. I would go no more than 350 lb/in for a daily driver. With the setup in my sig, I've been pretty competitive in the local auto-x's and it's very stable around town on any surface, rough, smooth, and it's very predictable.

If you have an upgraded rear sway bar (I would highly recommend doing this if you haven't installed one), the OTS spring rates will be just fine. As for shocks, I like the Illuminas, just because I don't like to have "vague" settings like on the yellows. Illuminas have 5 distinct settings, but the thing is they cannot handle higher springrates like the yellows can. Which ever you chose, it'll be a good shock, and with the ground controls, the car will handle very well. Good luck

 

amazing i love to see it when people are just kind to each other!

http://www.team-integra.net has probably the best thread on spring rates if ur in the market for them i know its been quite helpful for me. and good luck

 

haha
thanks for the inputs...
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aloha spirit..

haha

Garados- as for the whole kit....any refernces to a site with good prices and reliable service?

 

I got mine from diablo auto (motor?) sports. They're out of business, though. I'm sure you can find the shocks and ground controls from a sponsor. I'd browse through the listings in the sponsor marketplace or their individual websites and see what you can find. Good luck

Ground control Coilovers, free shipping, ~$285
http://www.nolimitmotorsport.com/prod/gc1020-01

Tokiko Illuminas, 2x$112 front, 2x109 back
http://www.nolimitmotorsport.c...acura


Modified by garados at 4:20 PM 5/7/2004