hey, I have lowering spring on my 99'GSR right now. don't know what kind of spring are those.. it came with the car when I bought it... but anyhow.. the front tire is hella low.. pretty much look like has air bag and ****... but it don't feel any smooth on those spring... so I wondering should I get rid of the spring go with coilover? if yes, what's the best coilover? and when you have coilover, do you have to get camber kit too?? and would my car be able look like this when I have coilover? PICTURE BELOW:

 

if you're lowered at all, chances are you need a camber kit. as for springs vs. coilovers, its a matter of personal choice. if you don't think you'll be taking advantage of the adjustable height, then just stick with springs. from the looks of your drop, it seems that you either have cut springs or coilovers on there already since not many aftermarket springs drop that low right out of the box...i'm guessing the ride isnt too comfortable?

 

id go with coilovers. you can get it to the exact height you want and if you have to deal with winter like i do its up back to stock height

 

yes ....coil gives you more options, easy to use....spring is permanent at one single height....if you dont springs then the springs will say to you "**** you then" "one height is one height you heard" lol

coil give you a good blow any position you want....

 

tein ss coilovers.. hight and 16 way dampening adjustable you'll need a rear camber kit, front is adjustable stock.. or if you got the cash & want your car really low, get a camber kit all around.

 

what in the holy hell? damn this thread is jacked up.

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how do you figure? I've been lowered anywhere from 2.5" to 3.5" w/o any camber kits for almost 3 years now, 80K miles, and have only changed tires twice in that time. Most of the time a camber kit is NOT necessary unless you really just want to dial in the camber setting to some certain number.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by AlxSiR7 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">tein ss coilovers.. hight and 16 way dampening adjustable you'll need a rear camber kit, front is adjustable stock.. or if you got the cash & want your car really low, get a camber kit all around.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Camber is NOT adjustable from the factory on any Civic or Integra.

And why does everyone ALWAYS recommend Tein? There are plenty of equal or better choices for equal or even less money.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what in the holy hell? damn this thread is jacked up.

how do you figure? I've been lowered anywhere from 2.5" to 3.5" w/o any camber kits for almost 3 years now, 80K miles, and have only changed tires twice in that time. Most of the time a camber kit is NOT necessary unless you really just want to dial in the camber setting to some certain number.

Camber is NOT adjustable from the factory on any Civic or Integra.

And why does everyone ALWAYS recommend Tein? There are plenty of equal or better choices for equal or even less money.</TD></TR></TABLE>

fer shizzle.
actually, i had amazing results with Skunk 2 Coilovers and KYB AGX Struts, lowered 2.75 inches without any camber problems. actually i had a perfect -3 camber up front, and shimmed the rear to correct my rear camber. The skunk 2 agx setup is great and hella stiff.

 

dont underestimate an alignment,a good alignment is worth its weight in gold

 

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Tein is the bandwagon brand name for coilovers.
They have a great reputation.

To tell you the truth, I don't like their entry-based coilovers like the Tein Basic or Tein S-Tech springs.

I wish my Tein HAs were rust proof at the top perch...other than that, anyone and everyone who's been in my car has asked me why my suspension is so good and I tell them, I have Teins.

 

take off your wheel and see if you can see what kind of springs and shocks they are.

as for camber kit, Im dropped on h&r race springs with no camber kit. like guy said earlier, an alignment is worth its weight in gold.

What coilovers have going for them is heigh adjustability. If you plan on adjusting them often, that will throw off your camber settings.

My springs have been on for a week now, and the left sits just a little bit lower than the right, maybe an 1/8 of an inch, and the back has a little bit less of a wheel gap than the front. If I had coilovers, I could adjust this to exactly the way i want it... back to my rake!!!

 

go with coilovers with an adjustable dampening capability. i got my tein basics, and i am more than happy with them...i enjoy a fairly stiff ride...but thats just me. you might get a set of coils or shocks/springs for that matter and think its too stiff or too soft....dampening lets you make it just like you want. im perfectly happy and satisfied with my basics tho

 

Omnipower.

 

bro dont go with sleeves. I've had cheap ebay ones and I now have skunk2. I would go with real coilovers or get better springs. I hate the way coilovers ride. Cheap ebay ones were bouncy as hell and ended up saging. Skunk2 is alittle stiff but I still hate the ride. Save your money and get true coilovers.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Built B18ABorC &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bro dont go with sleeves. I've had cheap ebay ones and I now have skunk2. I would go with real coilovers or get better springs. I hate the way coilovers ride. Cheap ebay ones were bouncy as hell and ended up saging. Skunk2 is alittle stiff but I still hate the ride. Save your money and get true coilovers. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The way it rides is largely due to the spring rate. Face it, you're just not going to have a dumped Honda that rides good. If you're going low, you have to use stiff springs to keep from bottoming out.

And don't hate on sleeve coilovers. My Koni shocks and Koni Ground Controls are full coilovers, for all intents and purposes. The sleeve fits the shock so well that it could pretty much just be considered part of the shock itself.



Just because you get "true" coilovers doesn't mean it's going to ride any better than what you have now, unless your shocks are just total junk, in which case anything would be an improvement.

 

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J/K. I can vouch that a Koni/GC matched combo is one of the best and most closest to a quality "true" coilover setup.

 

Im thinking about getting Skunk2 Coilover, what do ya guys say?

 

Correct me if I'm wrong, but aren't the Ground Control Springs adjustable height as well? So once again, don't knock the spring/strut combo, it can work too. Running GC's and Tokico Illuminas, it's really not that bad at all.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how do you figure? I've been lowered anywhere from 2.5" to 3.5" w/o any camber kits for almost 3 years now, 80K miles, and have only changed tires twice in that time. Most of the time a camber kit is NOT necessary unless you really just want to dial in the camber setting to some certain number.</TD></TR></TABLE>
i haven't had the same luck, i've needed a camber kit with every drop i've tried...you're running the fat fives though arent you?

 

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How do you you adjust spring height.

You need the coilover sleeve for that.
Strut/Spring combos...You can adjust the dampening if its adjustable on the shock, but not the height.

 

get coil overs..........easier in life........

 

yup. Im getting skunk2 coilover

 

prepare for a harsh ride

 

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i haven't had the same luck, i've needed a camber kit with every drop i've tried...you're running the fat fives though arent you?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah and I've had both 205/50 and 195/50 tires.

Have you gotten the toe set to exactly zero after said drops?

Also any change in ride height changes toe and requires another alignment to ensure minimal tire wear.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PatrickGSR94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yeah and I've had both 205/50 and 195/50 tires.

Have you gotten the toe set to exactly zero after said drops?

Also any change in ride height changes toe and requires another alignment to ensure minimal tire wear.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i did on the first two drops i did. the first still had a very noticeable negative afterwards, i had always blamed it on having cheap coilovers (weapon-r, back in the day). my next drop's camber was almost fixed by the alignment, but tire wear suggested otherwise. i never asked specifically to have the toe set to 0, but i've always assumed they did that anyways

 

my own opinion would go get me some tein spring if u dont want the car that low and dont get me wrong the body kit got to go man aight