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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 06:43 PM
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1995 LS with ACT HDSS Clutch and Clutchmasters Flywheel and New Honda MTF Fluid

I have a persistent problem that has happened before and after my aftermarket clutch and flywheel. Now and then, not all the time or even frequently, my tranny will grind going into third gear. Not as I let off the clutch- its with the clutch pushed in, almost like I'm trying to get into the gear w/o using the clutch.

What's my problem?

Ben
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 06:52 PM
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probably bad synchros, very common in honda trannies
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 06:57 PM
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Bad synchros even though it grinds while the clutch is depressed? I thought synchros were what brought the engine rev's to the proper speed as you release the clutch?

If it is synchros, what am I looking at in terms of parts costs for DIY and then parts and labor for shop?

Ben
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 07:10 PM
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time for a gsr or type r tranny
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Old Dec 17, 2002 | 07:29 PM
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i have the same problem with my GSR tranny....it would grind goin into 3rd only at high rpms and now i changed the clutch and put on a clutchnet 6 puck and a fidanza fylwheel and now i get the grinding into 3rd during most normal driving....and sometimes 2nd at high rpms, sometimes.

im guessing my syncros are gone as well, but how come the change after i changed my clutch and flywheel?..thanks

Travis
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 08:54 PM
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anyone?

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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 09:05 PM
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maybe... you didnt push clutch in all the way..... i dont know
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Old Dec 18, 2002 | 10:05 PM
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synchros
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 04:00 AM
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if your saying that your clutch is depressed.... and it grinds it might be the problem with your Master Cylinder, because it sound more like the clutch isn't disengaged fully.

or just a bad syncro


[Modified by Fuuma0083, 8:01 AM 12/19/2002]
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 06:25 AM
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3rd gear synchro is usually first to go. You can double clutch it into 3rd and see if that helps.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 11:04 AM
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I just recently started griding into 3rd after a track day. Low or high RPM, it would grind going into 3rd. I have a Type-R flywheel, CM stage 3 and a 205K mile 92 LS tranny. I just recently put in some GM synchromesh MTF and the grinding is gone. I have yet to test it on a track again but the grinding i used to get on the streets are pretty much gone. I figured, if my synchros are bad anyway, might as well try it. I suggest you try GM synchromesh MTF. HTH.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 11:48 AM
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for jesus christ's sake.. use the SEARCH function!! this must have been covered 6000000000000000000000000000000000 times.. and its not really a problem.. anyone with a 5-speed will encounter it.. the tranny still works.. and it wont really hurt anything.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 11:54 AM
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i've seen "Use the search" post more times than posts have been re-topiced...

hatchy jo0 a n00be


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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 12:23 PM
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same problem with a friends Si just bad synchro i would say.
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 01:02 PM
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FrankGSR, is that ur car in ur avatar? I wanna see somemore pics!

But yea its ur syncros. Time for a new tranny!
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Old Dec 19, 2002 | 01:18 PM
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Default Re: Problems Into Third Gear (Fuuma0083)

if your saying that your clutch is depressed.... and it grinds it might be the problem with your Master Cylinder, because it sound more like the clutch isn't disengaged fully.

or just a bad syncro


[Modified by Fuuma0083, 8:01 AM 12/19/2002]
I would agree with this, I would say it is either your slave or master, try filling your slave cylinder with DOT 3 fluid from the slave (there is a nipple on it) till it comes out the reservoir (displacing any air) and try it. This is what I did and it hasn't ground since.
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Old Dec 21, 2002 | 07:01 AM
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dallasyoung: https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=277074
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